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  1. #21
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Vast vast majority of players probably doesn’t really care about those changes because they don’t even play viper and of those players that play only a portion goes deep enough for it to matter for them.

    So I don’t know where you think you get these “numbers” from.
    Fact is only that there are people happy and unhappy with the changes and that many don’t understand them so there was a problem with communication.

    So because only a fraction actually cares or has the knowledge and in that fraction apparently enough actually liked the old state for it to be worth a comment from the producer himself, why then make changes at all?

    It’s the same thing that happened with SMN, BLM, DRK and others.
    Unnecessary changes to the existing things that had a playerbase only because the devs wanted to or in the desperate try to make something for everyone or because they actually don’t know what they themself want.

    Don’t design the game for those that don’t want to play it but for the other side.
    Everyone has the same chance to get better with a job they want to main so don’t take the fun from those who actually put in the effort.

    I still like the devs but here I say to them:
    “You are no longer on the same eye level as your dedicated players. Relearn how communication works.”
    I’m like at least 200% sure that post was a meme meant to satirise a very particular forum poster and not something legit
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I’m like at least 200% sure that post was a meme meant to satirise a very particular forum poster and not something legit
    Yeah, you are probably right but oh well. Wrote it anyway and feel better for it.
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  3. #23
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    Devs: “Yes we do!!!” *buffs WAR again*

    It’s chillingly plausible
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Devs: “Yes we do!!!” *buffs WAR again*

    It’s chillingly plausible
    Yes, Buff WAR more! Let us solo more content!
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  5. #25
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    You know what? You're right. I think we need more threads like the Viper ones.

    So what's next on the agenda? What are we feeling everyone? Are we feeling...

    "I keep messing up the Ten/Chi/Jin sign orders for the Ninjustu skills because they're hard for me personally to remember in the heat of battle, so I believe Square should completely remove that system so I don't have to remember the orders anymore?"

    or are we more leaning towards the vibe of...

    "They should give Black Mage the Summoner treatment and completely rework it so it's just a basic and streamlined Fire Phase -> Big Boom -> Ice Phase -> Big Boom -> Repeat because I personally believe the job demands too much of me?"

    I don't know about you all, but I am personally leaning towards: "Warrior and Paladins are in a perfect spot right now. Any Dark Knights, Gunbreakers, and Healers complaining about what Warrior and Paladin have tool wise should just get good and deal with it or play a different job and stop bitching."
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    Dawntrail did you dirty girl, it did you dirty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Devs: “Yes we do!!!” *buffs WAR again*[/i]
    Honestly I think that's what the game needs rn. I think buffing WAR and taking away healer dps will set us back on the straight and narrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I can't believe Final Fantasy XIV made an entire expansion focused on Jar Jar Binks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXN View Post
    You know what? You're right. I think we need more threads like the Viper ones.

    So what's next on the agenda? What are we feeling everyone? Are we feeling...

    "I keep messing up the Ten/Chi/Jin sign orders for the Ninjustu skills because they're hard for me personally to remember in the heat of battle, so I believe Square should completely remove that system so I don't have to remember the orders anymore?"

    or are we more leaning towards the vibe of...

    "They should give Black Mage the Summoner treatment and completely rework it so it's just a basic and streamlined Fire Phase -> Big Boom -> Ice Phase -> Big Boom -> Repeat because I personally believe the job demands too much of me?"

    I don't know about you all, but I am personally leaning towards: "Warrior and Paladins are in a perfect spot right now. Any Dark Knights, Gunbreakers, and Healers complaining about what Warrior and Paladin have tool wise should just get good and deal with it or play a different job and stop bitching."
    How about we go back to those posts that were like "Idk why people keep talking about healer DPS, personally they should just remove all DPS abilities from healers altogether so all they can do is heal, if you need damage just autoattack"
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    The healer strike thread. The 284 threads on how bad DRK is. The Summoner threads. We cannot go off of forum feedback. That feedback had to be from Reddit or private surveys about the game.
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  9. #29
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    Tomana Dawnstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    I mean lets be real... the devs do not tread into the heeping garbage pit that is the English forum. 50% of it being troll threads and posts with the other half having dozens upon dozens of samey threads. If they really want to take feedback serious they should prolly toss out some kind of survey with every patch...
    Whaaaat? Get feedback from the customers? Now that is an audacious idea XDDD
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    How about we go back to those posts that were like "Idk why people keep talking about healer DPS, personally they should just remove all DPS abilities from healers altogether so all they can do is heal, if you need damage just autoattack"
    I can see that they will rework spamming 1111 to healers to make it auto casting like auto attacks because healers are in stress with how expert dungeons is hard to play for them.

    isn't that cute?
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