What makes other people happy makes me sad.

[Valmonte]

i wouldn't be surprised if summoner gets the Dirty Shaft and our basic summons turn out to be nothing but Elemental's. as much as i love the idea of getting Siren, Carbuncle, Quezacotl, Gilgamesh...i don't see it happening.

[TheVedis]

The term "summoner" refers to your ability to summon stuff to fight for you

technicaly, you dont even have to summon elementals, you can summon demons, monsters, and anything you can imagine

you are too stuck on old concepts from older games to realize this


If it can summon something, its a summoner

[KoujiGeki]

The term "summoner" refers to your ability to summon stuff to fight for you

technicaly, you dont even have to summon elementals, you can summon demons, monsters, and anything you can imagine

you are too stuck on old concepts from older games to realize this


If it can summon something, its a summoner

name a single FF title that you could only summon elementals? They have always summon The corresponding Elemental avatar to whatever game they belong to. Why change something that was one of the key elements to the FF series why fix what wasnt ever remotly broken.


and by what you saying now is that there should only be 1 pet job? Summoning pets from jugs so now beastmater is now summoner. calling and automatron makes that summoner too i guess.

[Valmonte]

The term "summoner" refers to your ability to summon stuff to fight for you

technicaly, you dont even have to summon elementals, you can summon demons, monsters, and anything you can imagine

you are too stuck on old concepts from older games to realize this


If it can summon something, its a summoner

[Sarcasm] No shit really? Your Fucking kidding me..Right. I had no idea summoners actually summoned stuff that's just so dame Awsome. [/Sarcasm]

i know what it means...in the Context of Final Fantasy it generally Refers to the Summoning of Avatars, Espers, Guardian Forces, Eidolons, and Aeons.

the Series as a whole already has jobs that Can summon other things, Beast Master Summons Monster's/Wild animals to fight for you, Necromancer Can summon the Dead and demons to fight for you.

[Jokerz]

name a single FF title that you could only summon elementals? They have always summon The corresponding Elemental avatar to whatever game they belong to. Why change something that was one of the key elements to the FF series why fix what wasnt ever remotly broken.


and by what you saying now is that there should only be 1 pet job? Summoning pets from jugs so now beastmater is now summoner. calling and automatron makes that summoner too i guess.

FFXI?...at least I'm quite sure you could summon elementals in that game

[Jericho]

FFXIV =/= FFXI.

Very helpful, thank you

[KoujiGeki]

FFXI?...at least I'm quite sure you could summon elementals in that game

you can summon elementals. but i said name one where you can only summon elementals. 11 was the only one that you summon worthless summons that you only use to let the mob beat the shit outof while you ran like a little bitch lol. oh and there only 1 single positive use was summoning theme for all of 5 seconds to do Elemental Siphon.

[Jokerz]

you can summon elementals. but i said name one where you can only summon elementals. 11 was the only one that you summon worthless summons that you only use to let the mob beat the shit outof while you ran like a little bitch lol. oh and there only 1 single positive use was summoning theme for all of 5 seconds to do Elemental Siphon.

I know I was just picking at you

Honestly I'd prefer is SE had more fun with summons rather then "Summon powerful mob and let them fight while you back up heal" Maybe summons will take on an entirely different meaning and instead of summoning monsters you summon gear. I know it sounds kinda stupid but think about it, your fighting a strong monster and your pld goes down so you summon a titan armor and tank the boss while your party regroups, or you summon an aerial armor that gives you enhanced movement speed and faster attacks.

I know not exactly a typical summoner but would be an interesting approach, I mainly like to see summoner more intimate with their summons rather then seeing them as disposable pets<_<

[KoujiGeki]

i sorry. lol. i just upset that my most favorite job /abilities that really drew my to the Final Fantasy series it self was summoning. Ill admit i started really lat my first ff being 7. The first summon Choco/mog. My first reaction was....... lolwtfwasthat. Shiva....... hey hawtness...... Ifrit ..... O.O ...... to my favorite summon Bahamut. OMFG the first time i saw bahamut i lost it i was a giddy little school. From then on Summoners have been my favorite and all the other mmo and video games i played the pet jobs cause hey they kinda like summoner. Whih is why FFX was my all time favorite in the series cause the story focused on Summoner. FF4 Rydia never leaves my damn party unless story makes her leave. So to see my favorite job fall from glory and reduce to a measly conjurer of cheap elementals will ruin very fond feeling that made me love Final Fantasy. Its a timeless Traditional job in the series that shouldn't be changed.

[Platinumstorm]

It really sucks not getting trademark ones, but they could do some amazing things with other ones. For a "fluff style" I would like Bismark.. actually.

I also wouldn't mind brand new ones.