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  1. #151
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    Nah, Bloodwhetting is a result of healers not healing in dungeons, and Raw Intuition should become a tank role ability. Sorry not sorry. If you want it to be nerfed, tough luck. Healers prove day in and day out why Bloodwhetting never gets nerfed by having nothing better to do than grief dark knights all day in the duty finder.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Nah, Bloodwhetting is a result of healers not healing in dungeons, and Raw Intuition should become a tank role ability. Sorry not sorry. If you want it to be nerfed, tough luck. Healers prove day in and day out why Bloodwhetting never gets nerfed by having nothing better to do than grief dark knights all day in the duty finder.
    “Makes a skill that it so healers never need to heal”

    “Why don’t healers heal”

    Uh profit I guess
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Nah, Bloodwhetting is a result of healers not healing in dungeons, and Raw Intuition should become a tank role ability. Sorry not sorry. If you want it to be nerfed, tough luck. Healers prove day in and day out why Bloodwhetting never gets nerfed by having nothing better to do than grief dark knights all day in the duty finder.
    "Bloodwhetting is a result of healers not healing in dungeons" <-- I wish the forums would require you to read the stuff you type before you are allowed to hit post...
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  4. #154
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    Remove Bloodwhetting or just cap it.. like how other tanks have caps

    Healing from 10% to 100% in 2 seconds is not that balance

    Even if you nerf every other war utility has it will still be strongest healing ability in the game
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  5. #155
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    Few years ago we complain about benediction now we got Bloodwhetting
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  6. #156
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    Bloodwhetting isn't going to be changed to be less effective at this point. Warrior is what it is. A problem I have been seeing lately though is an increase in Main Character syndrome in WARs. Many are not moving bosses anymore with mechanics the rest of the raid has to avoid because they are a WAR and don't die. So when playing a melee DPS, I'm stuck on the other side of the arena unable to do any melee attacks because WAR doesn't care about anyone but WAR. I like the job and tanking, but I mainly play Paladin or Gunbreaker because WAR has become boring to me. I play it when I want to blow off steam in a dungeon mainly now. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this issue in roullettes but it's making me resent the job in general.
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  7. #157
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblecakes View Post
    Bloodwhetting isn't going to be changed to be less effective at this point. Warrior is what it is. A problem I have been seeing lately though is an increase in Main Character syndrome in WARs. Many are not moving bosses anymore with mechanics the rest of the raid has to avoid because they are a WAR and don't die. So when playing a melee DPS, I'm stuck on the other side of the arena unable to do any melee attacks because WAR doesn't care about anyone but WAR. I like the job and tanking, but I mainly play Paladin or Gunbreaker because WAR has become boring to me. I play it when I want to blow off steam in a dungeon mainly now. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this issue in roullettes but it's making me resent the job in general.
    I've seen that as well, tanks not moving the boss to ensure DPS can safely reach positionals.
    In my opinion it's most likely because of the general idea the boss will move to the middle on its own and that there's no need to position the boss.

    But that's a player issue.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblecakes View Post
    Bloodwhetting isn't going to be changed to be less effective at this point. Warrior is what it is. A problem I have been seeing lately though is an increase in Main Character syndrome in WARs. Many are not moving bosses anymore with mechanics the rest of the raid has to avoid because they are a WAR and don't die. So when playing a melee DPS, I'm stuck on the other side of the arena unable to do any melee attacks because WAR doesn't care about anyone but WAR. I like the job and tanking, but I mainly play Paladin or Gunbreaker because WAR has become boring to me. I play it when I want to blow off steam in a dungeon mainly now. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this issue in roullettes but it's making me resent the job in general.
    As someone who mains tank, it is sad to see other tanks do this. In my experience, most of the tanks doing this don't do anything that's not normal mode content, and so they don't even experience enrage wiping the party because they couldn't do their tank responsibilities correctly. It's definitely a skill issue on their part. Not a reason to nerf warrior.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    As someone who mains tank, it is sad to see other tanks do this. In my experience, most of the tanks doing this don't do anything that's not normal mode content, and so they don't even experience enrage wiping the party because they couldn't do their tank responsibilities correctly. It's definitely a skill issue on their part. Not a reason to nerf warrior.
    You know what I was salty with you in the other post but I actually totally agree with this point. I still believe WAR needs to be nerfed but not being punished for basically having no tank responsibilities so you continue to do things like poor positioning or tanking mechanics in weird spots that make the other players jobs harder is not in it of itself a reason to nerf WAR because you can do this sort of bad gameplay on any tank
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  10. #160
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    As someone who mains tank, it is sad to see other tanks do this. In my experience, most of the tanks doing this don't do anything that's not normal mode content, and so they don't even experience enrage wiping the party because they couldn't do their tank responsibilities correctly. It's definitely a skill issue on their part. Not a reason to nerf warrior.
    I mean it depends on perspective. I can quite obviously imagine that they're many players who think the current level of warrior self-healing is not only useful to the game's balance, but in fact a requirement to success. Of course, those players cannot be held responsible for the other 95% of players who aren't as reliant on overpowered crutches making them appear quite bad. But yeah I get it. It's nice the game caters to all kinds of players.
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