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  1. #351
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    bro has been defending Sena for 36 pages, talk about dedication
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  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    She cant attack people randomly and be free of consequence. hate is hate
    that and they all label anyone who doesnt like the work of anyone who is trans as "phobic" no matter what, diluting the real meaning of it in the process, to mean anyone who doesnt like the work of someone who is that even if you do not mention that you care about that or explicitly state your criticism is based purely on acting quality

    i dont care who the actor behind wuk is or what they identify as... the quality is just awful, but i get called hateful and slanderous things based purely on constructive criticism
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    So with how quick Sena and her defenders are to label someone as transphobic, you don't see how this is problematic? Criticism has been brushed off as just being transphobic by a ton of people when there's 0 mentions of her identity in it.

    Curious, do you ever get tired of defending her? The last like 2 months of your history is almost nothing but Sena comments.
    I'm just saying it's a harmless silly edgy shirt, mate. Dunno where you're pulling all of that from.

    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    She cant attack people randomly and be free of consequence. hate is hate
    And you shouldn't make up "what if" scenarios to incite outrage. That's (one of the ways) how misinformation starts.
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  4. #354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    I'm just saying it's a harmless silly edgy shirt, mate. Dunno where you're pulling all of that from.



    And you shouldn't make up "what if" scenarios to incite outrage. That's (one of the ways) how misinformation starts.
    except as previously stated, her defenders label anyone who doesnt love the work as "phobic" meaning its a shirt saying that to everyone who doesnt like the work

    and "shouldnt make up what if scenarios"? you mean like all the defenders do to anyone throwing in ANY amount of constructive criticism and go "well youre just phobic"...
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  5. #355
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    She cant attack people randomly and be free of consequence. hate is hate
    Not when it is directed at transphobes, that is called justice.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Not when it is directed at transphobes, that is called justice.
    which again.. the defenders label as ANYONE who doesnt like the work, if you dont like the work, talk only about the work, never once mention anything about identity... you are called phobic
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  7. #357
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    Quote Originally Posted by korokokoro View Post
    which again.. the defenders label as ANYONE who doesnt like the work, if you dont like the work, talk only about the work, never once mention anything about identity... you are called phobic
    I am not talking about critics am I? I am talking about people who HAVE went after her because she is trans. People have been going too far labeling anyone criticizing her work as transphobes. Not right, most of the issue was the writing but some parts of her work were rough. But point is, I am talking about the transphobes not the critics. When shit is directed at transphobes it is justice.
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    Last edited by BunnyQueen; 09-12-2024 at 05:28 AM. Reason: Missed a ,
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by korokokoro View Post
    which again.. the defenders label as ANYONE who doesnt like the work, if you dont like the work, talk only about the work, never once mention anything about identity... you are called phobic
    You're punching yourself in the face when you say things like that. For the past few pages I haven't seen anyone state that. All I've seen is hate towards a shirt that says transphobes.

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    I am not talking about critics am I? I am talking about people who HAVE went after her because she is trans. People have been going too far labeling anyone criticizing her work as transphobes. Not right, most of the issue was the writing but some parts of her work were rough. But point is I am talking about the transphobes not the critics. When shit is directed at transphobes it is justice.
    The word really hurts them, we all know why though.
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  9. #359
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    It still baffles me how the community who's all for someone expressing their identity and gender also have no problems mislabeling people with different mind sets.
    Obviously not the whole community but the vocal ones clearly have no problem with this. We see the perfect example with this shirt here.
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  10. 09-12-2024 05:38 AM
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    No point arguing with people who won't learn.

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    I've criticised Sena as much as anyone, but:

    a) Yoshi commented on the controversy (albeit with PR speak), so SE is aware of her comments
    b) It doesn't look like she's posted anything problematic ever since things blew up, so either somebody spoke to her or she's evidently learned a lesson (not to post offensive things as a public figure as it draws negativity, at least)

    With these 2 the topic is done. Literally nothing else to be said.
    I realise tensions are rather high at the moment with DT being disappointing to many of us, but literally what else do you expect to happen? Time to move on.
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