YoshiP “Torn" Over What to do with the Scions (Interview)

[Supersnow845]

You could have a scene where wake up in your inn room and see him rushing out your window with your underwear, some of your hair and your drool, and people would say it's romantic because he's a handsome cat boy.
We lost Papalymo and Yda for this.

Maybe it’s just because DT didn’t give enough time to anyone besides wuk Lamat but one thing I do think DT did well is pull back on the “annoying fanboy” aspect of graha and bring back the “wise exarch” persona that was almost entirely missing in 5.4-5.55 and EW except that one scene in raz at Han. Sure you can interpret the gondola scene as a “date” but it has some well written and poignant dialogue and links back to the equally poignant dialogue he gave us in 6.55

Maybe I’m just intentionally shutting out the “UWU romantic catboi” elements because in my headcanon my WOL is married to deryk instead but I feel DT did his character a lot better than EW

[Lydia77]

Maybe it’s just because DT didn’t give enough time to anyone besides wuk Lamat but one thing I do think DT did well is pull back on the “annoying fanboy” aspect of graha and bring back the “wise exarch” persona that was almost entirely missing in 5.4-5.55 and EW except that one scene in raz at Han. Sure you can interpret the gondola scene as a “date” but it has some well written and poignant dialogue and links back to the equally poignant dialogue he gave us in 6.55

Maybe I’m just intentionally shutting out the “UWU romantic catboi” elements because in my headcanon my WOL is married to deryk instead but I feel DT did his character a lot better than EW

Scions miht as well not be present in DT.
As someone said the Twins could be replaced by some random NPC. Urianger might as well stay home. Estinien just doing Estinien things and we can delete that and rubber bullets with not much loss. Shtola appears because....? Raha here to.... eat tacos? or be the only scion (sorry Krile) to go through the gate so Poochie wont be the olny one? Only Thancred did Thancred things by following the kidnappers (we will leave this soty behind lol). And all of them re-united in credit scene with AWFULL song to do *gasp* TRAILER MOMENT!!!!!
And everytime Poochie is not in the scene everyone should ask: "Where is Poochie?"

[Rosenoire]

That's one element of DT that amused me: Estinien's presence. Him being in Tural actually felt more natural than the other Scions. Not sure if this was because he didn't have an agenda and just headed that way because (basically) 'why not' but, for me, it worked.
And I almost feel that they should've taken that approach with the Warrior of Light.

On one hand, I always want more Estinien. On the other hand, Estinien the Spear Cryptid, jumping in to growl a line and then Elusive Jumping away was hilarious and perfect.

[Rosenoire]

If he really wants to try a story without them, them stop bringing them along like tokens that stand around and do nothing. And don't get me wrong: I love the twins, but I have no idea why they came to Tural.

The twins should have taken the expansion off to deal with their growth spurts. Let them grow up!

[SeriousPan]

I only want one thing for Duty Support, man.

[Catwho]

We only complain that "so and so disappeared" if we don't know where they actually WENT. Y'shtola point blank says, "I am going back to Sharlayan to do research" at many points in the story. Cool! We know where we she is. Thancred says, "I'm going out on a reconnaissance mission." Cool! We know he's out doing neato spy shit.

Even better if they are briefly interactable in the place where they say they are for that point in the story or patch, until they need to be reactivated or rotated back in again.

Yugiri is a great example of introducing a character, giving her a bit of an arc and some development.... and then not having HER be in Mor Dhona during Heavensward except in cutscene form. I woulda liked to let her know I was okay.

[Voidmage]

The man literally spent 100 years defending the first. You gonna say a few days worth is good enough. How about many more. I want the man to see sights he couldn't see since he spent 100 years in that dying world. You clearly skipped the msq if you dont remember that much

It’s an opinion that doesn‘t need such an insult. No skipping needed.

I also agree with them. Where is the line drawn?
His hardcore fans make it pretty clear that they want to date this guy but there are also those of us who just „like“ him and nothing more.

G‘Raha got the afterpatches of Shb, the EW expansion, the beginning of the EW patch series, Myths of the realm and now was the one scion that traveled with us in the second half of DT.

I think he got his adventures.
Graha is a scion that got more adventures than Urianger for example and is close to Thancred.
What more do you want?

[Vinter]

Start killing them off.

Is that going to upset people? Absolutely. Good. Make us feel something.

[Hallarem]

Killing any of them will need competent writing. I dont want to leave any possible big thing or moment like a Scion perishing in the hands of these junior writers.

Other than that. I put Alphinaud in the front to die. I think that will give Alisaie a chance to grow and we can get a bad guy to hate and explore the theme of revenge being toxic etc etc. But to handle it in a nuanced respectful way? We need better writers

[chizLemons]

It’s an opinion that doesn‘t need such an insult. No skipping needed.

I also agree with them. Where is the line drawn?
His hardcore fans make it pretty clear that they want to date this guy but there are also those of us who just „like“ him and nothing more.

G‘Raha got the afterpatches of Shb, the EW expansion, the beginning of the EW patch series, Myths of the realm and now was the one scion that traveled with us in the second half of DT.

I think he got his adventures.
Graha is a scion that got more adventures than Urianger for example and is close to Thancred.
What more do you want?

It really does seem you are skipping cutscenes, because the promises of adventure we are refering to were done in ULTIMA THULE. We promised him 3 things, in a very emotionally heavy cutscene before his own sacrifice: to go with him to Ishgard, to bring him to the places we lived our adventures, and to go on a new, bigger adventure. None of those were fulfilled - no, Myths of the Realm doesn't count, he was already a cardboard cutout by then AND they never mentioned the promises - it's important that they're mentioned.
Because of how they were included in the game, and how important of a scene it was for him, yes, I do expect the characters to remember and fulfill them, and it IS a problem that they're not being aknowledged in game anymore, not even a "I still remember them!".

THEY WERE, however, mentioned in a planetarium collaboration event in Japan, narrated by him. So that means Ishikawa still remembers them (she was the one that wrote the event), but the new writers didn't play Endwalker, apparently.

Also, I'm very concerned about the amount of people calling him a creepy fanboy. I think you all have been reading too much G'raha fanfic, or it's been a while since you last watched any cutscene with him before Dawntrail. Just try to no confuse headcanon-G'raha to canon-G'raha before criticitzing the character.