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  1. #21
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Probably trying to sanitize all the rough edges off the game for maximum marketability and greater audience appeal.

    Which is odd because you have to go through some seriously fucked up shit in ARR-EW to make it to the Juvenile 4kids-esque Dawntrail
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  2. #22
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    Router Modem
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    Dawntrail reeks of corporate sanitation, so I'm glad it's being critically panned for this kind of dumb shit. It felt like the writers were held at gunpoint (with actual bullets) the entire expac to keep things PG. Let the writers write!
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  3. #23
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    I think they said they use rubber bullets for duels.

    I guess they don't want to have a duel to the death.
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  4. #24
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    Serkonius Garolymar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Probably trying to sanitize all the rough edges off the game for maximum marketability and greater audience appeal.

    Which is odd because you have to go through some seriously fucked up shit in ARR-EW to make it to the Juvenile 4kids-esque Dawntrail
    I really hope they don't think they're gonna attract a young audience into a slow mmo that is 70% dialogue. Cater to the people who actually like the game already instead of trying to find an audience that doesn't exist.
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  5. #25
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    Selene Halflight
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    For the ..,

    Out of all the things that went wrong in the overall reception.

    Trying not to kill the Crooked Cop, and keep the law of the land. (as much as possible. and hope the actual head guy will be lenient on him firing anything in town. which it was.)

    That was the thing that didn't sit right, or outright triggered some of yall?

    People expecting KO animations to signify death like it's PvP, or haven't been holmganged before/enough. (not taking it seriously)

    Sides, killing the crooked cop would do worse for the intent and image. More so when they're partly trying to clear their friends names.

    [And the main law enforcement guy would of been forced to throw the book at both of them rather than the guy who is being dealt with.]


    The actual out of place thing would be how dumb the crooked cop was in the end.
    Anyone else would be suspect that the goody good "vigilantee/duelists" they took over and kicked to the curb would actually "go do crime". Suspicious as F.

    [Course that's ignored cause it's an actual part that wouldn't make sense for someone who was supposedly so schemey. yet apparently also dumb.]


    Sometimes I wonder if yall are getting to much into the juice that you start seeing Boogeyman in everything. Just like how I felt about Smiles poor placement.
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  6. #26
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    Connor Whelan
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    I’m a bit confused because like, what else did you expect? A brutal Mortal Kombat murder scene where the guys head pops like a water melon on bullet impact? Pretty sure that’d put the age rating up lol.

    I don’t think they’ve ever wanted FFXIV to be that kind of game. I mean, the fact characters rarely - if ever - actually ‘die’ is the biggest evidence of that I’d say.
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  7. #27
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    I just chalked it up as the characters didn't want to kill anybody.. I know it's hard to consider that.
    Duels in the historical Wild West rarely involved actually shooting the other person. The point was to prove superiority, so it was either decided at the draw or after a shot to the ground. There was no need for rubber bullets and it just comes across as stupid.
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  8. #28
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    Carin Eri
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    Worth noting that they didn't appear to be using rubber bullets during the attack from Zoraal Ja's forces.

    Though I guess since the ground forces were, for lack of a better description, robots/androids it was clearly okay to use real ammo - which is a pretty common trope.
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  9. #29
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    Inuro Enderas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    I’m a bit confused because like, what else did you expect? A brutal Mortal Kombat murder scene where the guys head pops like a water melon on bullet impact? Pretty sure that’d put the age rating up lol.

    I don’t think they’ve ever wanted FFXIV to be that kind of game. I mean, the fact characters rarely - if ever - actually ‘die’ is the biggest evidence of that I’d say.
    Uh... Did Endwalker not happen or something? Because bullets popping heads is kind of a thing already. Nobody is saying you need mortal kombat fatalities right on the screen, but at least let's not regress from what the game used to allow itself.
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  10. #30
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    Connor Whelan
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    Quote Originally Posted by BakoolJaJa View Post
    Uh... Did Endwalker not happen or something? Because bullets popping heads is kind of a thing already. Nobody is saying you need mortal kombat fatalities right on the screen, but at least let's not regress from what the game used to allow itself.
    Not sure how a guy unaliving himself to show how deep Garlean loyalty/sense of duty goes is in any the same as watching some guys shoot each other’s brains out publicly because…????. To prove he’s the good guy? That doesn’t make any sense lol.

    What would this character’s ‘death’ have actually illustrated about the context? How would that have driven the story forward in any way other than having some completely-out-of-place brutality just for the sake of it? The game has never been about killing people ‘because it’s a dangerous grimdark world’ or whatever, it serves a purpose (or they come back in a later patch lol)
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