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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemii View Post
    Why didn't DT take place in Dalmasca?
    Well mainly because that entire story got finished. What remained of it got told through the field notes in Bozja.
    the set up for the area is better in place for us to play Mentor, and would just overall be much more interesting.
    I agree it could have been interesting.
    Also it would make more sense, rather than some annoying rando dragging us to a random place for reasons that have no real connection to us, we've directly interacted with the people of Dalmasca, we've fought beside them, and we've seen glimpses of their country.
    Apparently they haven't ruled out taking us through what remains of Hingashi, but based on the map it appears we actually have been to almost all of it through sidequests.

    So perhaps they meant Othard. There is still some of Othard we could go to like Nagxia, the area where Ridorana and Orbonne take place, the area around Dalmasca and Bozja, and Corvos and the garlean territories. Beyond The Burn and the Azim Steppe is also The Knowing Sea, some mountains and Blindfrost which was mentioned by Emet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Well mainly because that entire story got finished. What remained of it got told through the field notes in Bozja.
    I agree it could have been interesting.
    Apparently they haven't ruled out taking us through what remains of Hingashi, but based on the map it appears we actually have been to almost all of it through sidequests.

    So perhaps they meant Othard. There is still some of Othard we could go to like Nagxia, the area where Ridorana and Orbonne take place, the area around Dalmasca and Bozja, and Corvos and the garlean territories. Beyond The Burn and the Azim Steppe is also The Knowing Sea, some mountains and Blindfrost which was mentioned by Emet.
    We have been to 2 places in hingashi- kugane and mt rokon, both of which are on the smaller island of hingashi

    It’s the equivalent of visiting like 2 cities in kyushu and saying we have seen all of Japan despite never even visiting honshu

    Corvos is also on ilsabard, not orthard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alchemii View Post
    Yea, but there's one minor detail. The City of Gold, and everything involved with the 9th and Solution 9 could have all taken place in this area. It didn't need to be Tural. Could have literally been anywhere and still would have worked out the exact same.



    Yes, but that doesn't mean they needed to literally go down them like a check list one after the other. That should have been more spread out. But my point still stands if the expansion had taken place in Dalmasca we'd still have the vacation fun exploration story, I mean the area is home to two different ancient civilizations that we know of, and we still could have gotten the City of Gold, Solution 9, Living Memory and all that stuff from the second half of the expansion.
    SE didn't "literally go down them like a check list" though. Of the 4 locations Emet talked about, they ended up going with the 3rd one on that list. Picking one thing out of a list of 4 isn't checking them off like a check list. I'm not saying Dalmasca wouldn't have been an interesting choice, but it was simply one of many avenues they could have chosen moving forward after Endwalker, but they didn't in favor of other choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We have been to 2 places in hingashi- kugane and mt rokon, both of which are on the smaller island of hingashi
    The Ruby Sea (if you want to consider it part of it), Kugane/Shirogane, Mt Rockon and the Isle of Val which is also one of the places there because it moved.
    Corvos is also on ilsabard, not orthard
    I never said it was part of Othard. But you can conceivably travel there through Othard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The Ruby Sea (if you want to consider it part of it), Kugane/Shirogane, Mt Rockon and the Isle of Val which is also one of the places there because it moved.
    I never said it was part of Othard. But you can conceivably travel there through Othard.
    Neither the ruby sea nor the isle of Val is in hingashi (even after the isle of Val moved) so we have really only been to kugane and mt Rokon
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    First off to the people defending DT with "At least it's not as bad as Stormblood" you all are factual wrong. I just finished up Stormblood on the alt and it is better.
    Stopped reading right here. If you want credibility, properly distinguish between an actual fact and your own personal opinion. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Neither the ruby sea nor the isle of Val is in hingashi (even after the isle of Val moved) so we have really only been to kugane and mt Rokon
    Oh, well then I wonder where the Isle of Val is.

    Either way, I'm not really feeling another Japanese themed expansion. One was enough. I made the most of it despite it not being my aesthetic and enjoyed it, but I did so knowing it was only for 2 years out of the grander picture of what would be a lot of expansions not themed like that.
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    I'm all about expressing criticism for Dawntrail, but this ain't it. Dawntrail's problems are plentiful, but choosing to go to Tural is least of them (I would say it's one of the only non-problems in the expansion). Can't help but feel like you're barking up the wrong tree and raising a problem where there isn't one just because you PERSONALLY wanted to go to Dalmasca.
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    The writers wanted to get away from Eorzea and all of the other environments we'd already visited and decided to send us across the ocean. Of the locations we've heard of, that meant either Tural or Meracidia. Meracidia has a lot of Allagan/First Brood lore baggage, while the New World had barely been touched. So they picked the more open option. (And yes, the role quests go back, but those are entirely optional. Only Shadowbringers has made them mandatory so far.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They seem to be leaning hard into the connection of Azem and the WOL and setting up plot threads around how much of Azem’s “mantle” per say the WOL wishes to take up and if they truly want to be Azem or not
    It's not a choice though.
    They ARE Azem.

    I have this prediction that when it comes time to finally end XIV, the Wol is going to join with all remaining soul-shards to become a true Ancient again, and then merge all worlds back into the Source like always was the Ascians desires but in a way that doesn't destroy the worlds or anything but rather creates a megaworld of sorts. Either that or repairs all the destroyed shards, and in so ding, the Wol will finally depart for the Aetherial sea and join with the rest of the ancients for new adventures in the afterlife. That's exactly how cheesy I expect it to end as.


    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Stopped reading right here. If you want credibility, properly distinguish between an actual fact and your own personal opinion. Thanks.
    Actually it's a fact to me that Stormblood is one of the best expansions ;>
    And I really don't understand why everyone hates it. Each to their own. Gave me anyway what I wanted; TO punch the stupid Garleans in their stupid face so hard they left.
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    Last edited by Talamh; 09-01-2024 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Reply to Striker added to prevent double-posting
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    Ugh ..

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