Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Aurumis]

I'm someone who sincerely disagrees with your opinion. I've been civil. I'd like it if you extended me that courtesy.

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

[Eluvyel]

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

Do you just not understand that everything in this thread is subjective? I've been following and partially participating since day one because the first benchmarks had issues for me as well. What I ended up getting I do thoroughly enjoy however, though.

You're being weirdly aggressive despite your likes and dislikes being just as much a matter of opinion as everybody else's.

That things have changed is absolutely an objective observation, no doubt about it. But you're literally fighting Astronis on his taste and that is just not okay.

[CidHeiral]

I do, though, very sincerely, like the upgrade on virtually every other character, too. I have an Au Ra alt and I like what her eyes look like now as well. I've looked at miqoeyes and loved them, female Highlander eyes and loved them, elezen eyes...on and on. Buuuut--it's also much more in the realm of matter of opinion, side-grade, however you'd like to call it. It's not such an obvious and blatant upgrade as what happened with my WoL's specific face.

Agreed, it's a pretty night and day upgrade across every race to me as well. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though of course.

Also, to be clear I've been referring to the eyeball itself. I'm aware there are some issues with the surrounding eye shape on some faces.

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

You seriously need to grow up if you think someone is a troll just because they disagree with you. That says more about you than them.

[Louhikko]

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

Just adding my voice to the choir but I have agree with Astronis, the eyes are fine for the most part (I wish fem hyurs were bigger tho) and there's no need to be this needlessly aggressive towards someone just for having a different opinion.

[noumen0nn]

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

Listen I strongly prefer the old eyes but I've also been active in this thread since day 1 and Astronis has been here in good faith the entire time, I would recommend reading back a page or ten

[Kaziek]

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

This isn't helpful. How do you feel about the people saying that anyone upset about the update is just overreacting? It's not fair to be that way in either direction, art is subjective. I disagree with some of his points but his opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.

[Cheapshot]

And not only mine but the 99% of people in this thread it seems. You are trolling I don't believe it with all the proves people has shown over all the thread XD it is by far the thing most people hates now.

Yeah, look I disagree with them completely but this behaviour isn’t acceptable. They haven’t been antagonistic or patronizing, they just have a different opinion. Attacking them harms our credibility and makes this thread look like just an echo chamber. Please keep things civil in here.

[Birdbrain]

I hope it's not too late to offer suggestions that the devs might take into their feedback.

My character is a male Au Ra with Face 4:

• Please re-add more solid black coloring further up the Au Ra's horns!
  In the pic comparison you can see that pre-Dawntrail, there was more black coloration further up the horns. It was solid black for 5 rings and fading out by the 6th ring. Currently in Dawntrail, the black only extends to ring 2 or 3 before fading out completely by ring 4. The fade is now simply too strong and there is less black to see.

• Reducing the dark shading in the scale below the eye would be appreciated!
  Male Au Ra Face 4 comes with the scales on the forehead and below the eye. The one scale below the eye now has very prominent dark shading that makes it look like a hole, pit, or teardrop. It reminds me of clown tears and is very distracting :'(
  Before Dawntrail it was smoother, lighter, and blended in better. Lessening the dark shadow inside that cheek scale will help it look closer to what it was before without removing the 'texture' they were going for.

I think tweaking those two simple things would do wonders to make Face 4 male Au Ra more accurate to its old self.

[Rueby]

I hope it's not too late to offer suggestions that the devs might take into their feedback.

My character is a male Au Ra with Face 4:

• Please re-add more solid black coloring further up the Au Ra's horns!
  In the pic comparison you can see that pre-Dawntrail, there was more black coloration further up the horns. It was solid black for 5 rings and fading out by the 6th ring. Currently in Dawntrail, the black only extends to ring 2 or 3 before fading out completely by ring 4. The fade is now simply too strong and there is less black to see.

• Reducing the dark shading in the scale below the eye would be appreciated!
  Male Au Ra Face 4 comes with the scales on the forehead and below the eye. The one scale below the eye now has very prominent dark shading that makes it look like a hole, pit, or teardrop. It reminds me of clown tears and is very distracting :'(
  Before Dawntrail it was smoother, lighter, and blended in better. Lessening the dark shadow inside that cheek scale will help it look closer to what it was before without removing the 'texture' they were going for.

I think tweaking those two simple things would do wonders to make Face 4 male Au Ra more accurate to its old self.

I couldn't help but notice how faded/barely visible your eyebrows are...granted they were pretty light in the Pre-DT, but I could tell it's there

[Birdbrain]

I couldn't help but notice how faded/barely visible your eyebrows are...granted they were pretty light in the Pre-DT, but I could tell it's there

You're right. Not sure if it's due to the new, darker shadows around the eyes, but it definitely seems like a handful of races have had eyebrows getting thinner/lighter.

The more I look at screenshots the more I notice those little differences... nose shape change, paler scale color, longer chin scales... and it's driving me a little nuts now!