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    Quote Originally Posted by PassinLay View Post
    As the person 2 posts above me just said, you are literally proving the point the OP is making, the only people actually staying are roleplayers, people that use ffxiv as a social hangout and other things, also venues etc. Very few actually do content in the very long term compared to those categories of players, and the chart actually proves that we are back to normal pre DT numbers already.

    One more reason as to why the whole "congestion" thing is an absolute joke.
    I mean those charts exist for Shadowbringers and Endwalker. It shows similar patterns. People come back for new content then it levels out. It looks identical for most MMO's

    Also it helps that Shadowbringers had Shadowlands to compete against and an absolute MASSIVE exodus of WoW players seeking a new game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willemdarke View Post
    None of the people replying, the OP included, have said the game is dying or a sinking ship. The title is a reference to comments made by Japanese players with this thread being a discussion of their opinions.



    Rubbish. The graph clearly shows that ShB had a steady player population which grew over time. ShB's late patches had more people playing than the launch hype spike. The very end-of-expansion content draught had the same numbers as the launch spike. ShB's numbers absolutely did not tank within the first 2 months. It's first dip was only 4 months in and even then the difference isn't as staggering as we see in EW or DT.


    It's almost like there was some kind of... I don't know... Pandemic during that time where more people were either working from home or jobless, that accounted for greater than usual growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/.../61755714.html


    8. I spent the whole game wondering if it was really okay to make her a ruler, and having to choose between bad options was just painful.
    welcome to reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    It's almost like there was some kind of... I don't know... Pandemic during that time where more people were either working from home or jobless, that accounted for greater than usual growth.
    It's about retention. Whether growth was influenced by internal factors such as ShB's content or hype for its S-tier story, or external ones such as the pandemic or WoW bleeding out, ShB retained its player numbers.

    Shit games have spikes in numbers, sure, and they drop off immediately, not retain a healthy population, or are you implying that the 2020-2021 period didn't have enough games to choose from and people were stuck on FF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Considering the timestamps on the replies to that blog post (not to mention the comments themselves), looks like someone with an agenda bombed it with bot replies.
    This is a new one. The SE Defense Force always comes out with the most unhinged conspiracies.

    Any active forum is now under suspicion of being botted. Lol k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Quick solution to Wuk Lamat

    "I am the ruler here so I am going to stay here and help my people recover"

    There you go. People acting like they cannot solve the Wuk issue in 1 sentence are just silly.

    Same developer gave me Heavensward, Shadowbringer and Endwalker. I am fine giving them a few quest to fix the issue.
    They can but wont. Wuk is going to travel with us for all eternity and become an official Scion. She will make her brother do all the ruling while she explores the world as a 'diplomat' for her country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimalsALot View Post
    This is a new one. The SE Defense Force always comes out with the most unhinged conspiracies.

    Any active forum is now under suspicion of being botted. Lol k.
    Well, you literally are a bot so... Yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurumis View Post
    this chart just shows the truth of the thread instead of denying it. People came for the expansion, didn't like it or at least for what they paid tried to finish the MSQ, and then left and they continue leaving. Cheers.
    Jepp. It is the same like in the previous expansions.



    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Jepp. It is the same like in the previous expansions.



    Cheers
    A game not growing at all is not a good thing. Since when has that become acceptable ?
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    Crazy how people are trying to defend the game's player count drop when the population is already back down to levels seen when the game had one of the worst content droughts and a terrible post-msq.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, the current numbers we have now is the same as the pre-wow exodus numbers which means the game is no longer growing.
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