The fact that PvP start to be more enjoyable is alarming

[sindriiisgaming]

PCT isn't balance but still in PvE
RPR isn't balance but still in PvE
Astro is the best pure healer in the game
Higher healing and higher dps
They have more utility and equal dps to others in the same role

I mean who draw this idea that we have balance when PCT is better than black mage and RPR is better than other melees

To make jobs balance you have to make it fun first then balance is after thought

That's how game should be developed

i think you speak from naivety tbh. there is definitely a lot of major unbalancing in pvp. for example if a pld stuns me immediately before or after another stun, and the pld stun is rough btw. then i will die from not being able to play. you could argue (just dont get stunned) but lets be real a follow-up stun from a smaller stun is pretty hard to prevent and a good player will see you dont have purify up. i dont think this is balanced.

if you are in overtime, and the enemy team has a rpr. then there is a good 80% chance that that reaper will lb you off the crystal and win. and it cannot be countered it cannot be purified and it cannot be guarded. and unlike the dancer LB you WILL run away from the crystal. again this isnt balanced. these are some small problems with the game mode that have me thinking you dont play it so much or else youde see these problems, you are unlikley to encounter them in FL either. tho you will see sch damage is completely broken in FL. just the other day we had 3 five million dps schs. again this isnt balanced.

[BabyYoda]

i think you speak from naivety tbh. there is definitely a lot of major unbalancing in pvp. for example if a pld stuns me immediately before or after another stun, and the pld stun is rough btw. then i will die from not being able to play. you could argue (just dont get stunned) but lets be real a follow-up stun from a smaller stun is pretty hard to prevent and a good player will see you dont have purify up. i dont think this is balanced.

if you are in overtime, and the enemy team has a rpr. then there is a good 80% chance that that reaper will lb you off the crystal and win. and it cannot be countered it cannot be purified and it cannot be guarded. and unlike the dancer LB you WILL run away from the crystal. again this isnt balanced. these are some small problems with the game mode that have me thinking you dont play it so much or else youde see these problems, you are unlikley to encounter them in FL either. tho you will see sch damage is completely broken in FL. just the other day we had 3 five million dps schs. again this isnt balanced.

You have a good point

But also bozja wasn't balance
But was it fun? Yes

[sindriiisgaming]

You have a good point

But also bozja wasn't balance
But was it fun? Yes

the people on the other end of broken balancing like blackmages will not have fun. you simply shouldn't advocate for this. besides i remember when bozja released in 5.2 it was complained about constantly because it was so hard and people couldnt get into duals :/

[BabyYoda]

the people on the other end of broken balancing like blackmages will not have fun. you simply shouldn't advocate for this. besides i remember when bozja released in 5.2 it was complained about constantly because it was so hard and people couldnt get into duals :/

People are excited for bozja content in DT
There is a reason for it I guess.. fun aspect

[sindriiisgaming]

People are excited for bozja content in DT
There is a reason for it I guess.. fun aspect

theyre excited because he said "i will take the best from each" just from me personally. the lack of a 60 man approachable BA style raid in bozja was a major minus for me

[Valence]

i think you speak from naivety tbh. there is definitely a lot of major unbalancing in pvp. for example if a pld stuns me immediately before or after another stun, and the pld stun is rough btw. then i will die from not being able to play. you could argue (just dont get stunned) but lets be real a follow-up stun from a smaller stun is pretty hard to prevent and a good player will see you dont have purify up. i dont think this is balanced.

if you are in overtime, and the enemy team has a rpr. then there is a good 80% chance that that reaper will lb you off the crystal and win. and it cannot be countered it cannot be purified and it cannot be guarded. and unlike the dancer LB you WILL run away from the crystal. again this isnt balanced. these are some small problems with the game mode that have me thinking you dont play it so much or else youde see these problems, you are unlikley to encounter them in FL either. tho you will see sch damage is completely broken in FL. just the other day we had 3 five million dps schs. again this isnt balanced.

You keep bringing up rampant cc / stuns, are you talking within the realm of FLs, or just Crystalline Conflict?

Also, there are ways to play around RPR in overtime, the same way there is ways to play around a scattergun shot there.

[Alyko]

i think you speak from naivety tbh. there is definitely a lot of major unbalancing in pvp. for example if a pld stuns me immediately before or after another stun, and the pld stun is rough btw. then i will die from not being able to play. you could argue (just dont get stunned) but lets be real a follow-up stun from a smaller stun is pretty hard to prevent and a good player will see you dont have purify up. i dont think this is balanced.

You have a five-second window with Purify where you're immune to further stuns. If Purify is down, you can use Guard to mitigate further incoming damage. If you're having trouble when Guard drops you were out of position.

The unbalancing comes from skills that are hard to counter. Salted Earth pulls in particular are a nightmare to counter if Guard or Purify isn't up. And there's nothing you can do except pray if a party of SCHs decides to do the SCH biolysis meta and cause 12k DoTs that last for 10 seconds.

[Tunda]

You have a five-second window with Purify where you're immune to further stuns. If Purify is down, you can use Guard to mitigate further incoming damage. If you're having trouble when Guard drops you were out of position.

The unbalancing comes from skills that are hard to counter. Salted Earth pulls in particular are a nightmare to counter if Guard or Purify isn't up. And there's nothing you can do except pray if a party of SCHs decides to do the SCH biolysis meta and cause 12k DoTs that last for 10 seconds.

to me PvP is balance enough as a sub content in the game,

you have all the tools to avoid any kind of cc or even prevent getting damaged with guard

the thing is let us try to shake not only job design but also in encounters for content similar to bozja,

we can identify if the ideas was good enough or not,

1 year is enough time to decide whether player base will like it or not

ShB bozja was a bit mess but people liked it that's why some people are mad that we didn't get one in EW

If there is more effort for this game mode and keep updating it even after 1 expansion people will play it I can 100% assure you if we got new content in bozja currently, no one will play roulette lol,
DPS will be happy they don't have to wait another 15 min for party