MSQ Questing in response to Yoshida's interviews

[Rekh]

If anything all you've proven is they've stabilized spectacularly since WoD despite the controversies, exodus and so-called "bad expansions".

Anyway, moving on. I'm more interested in what you think is actually real open-world content from Classic WoW vs the "fake" open-world content from retail. That would be a lot more constructive. Let the devs decide if they can or can't do something, our job as fans/players/customers is to discuss what they could do.

Only in your head is going downhill = Stabilized. In numbers, from around 10 million for 8 or so years down to 5.5 then losing 1 million over the next 6 years.

Ask the OP; he's talking about msq content. xiv doesn't have the capacity for deep open world content with the amount of resources and time launch msq takes. The best they can settle for is heavensward/shadowbringers story telling.

For open world content in general they already created them with bozja, and eureka to a lesser extent. Unfortunately they're locked behind instances instead of being a part of the regular open world. And there's benefit for square enix to do this since they wouldn't have to create brand new locations.

[LisseyCrowe]

Only in your head is going downhill = Stabilized. In numbers, from around 10 million for 8 or so years down to 5.5 then losing 1 million over the next 6 years.

Ask the OP; he's talking about msq content. xiv doesn't have the capacity for deep open world content with the amount of resources and time launch msq takes. The best they can settle for is heavensward/shadowbringers story telling.

For open world content in general they already created them with bozja, and eureka to a lesser extent. Unfortunately they're locked behind instances instead of being a part of the regular open world. And there's benefit for square enix to do this since they wouldn't have to create brand new locations.

Only in your head does "stabilized spectacularly since WoD" includes everything before WoD. But I understand that your point only stands if you ignore what I say. Fact is that for the last 10 years, an aging game has managed to keep 95% of it's playerbase per year, that is commendable. Or at least that's what I'd like to say, but it's also important to state that your "source" isn't reliable. Blizzard doesn't actually release sub numbers, it's all just estimates. If you read the article it even "didn’t consider the popularity of WoW Classic and the pandemic’s rise in players. But there’s no way to know". You did read the article, right? It's impressive, to be sure, but most of it's information is informed guesswork (which is my way of saying the actual numbers possibly fluctuate a lot more and aren't in fact, in a constant decline as you claim).

And I'm not asking OP, I'm asking you. You're the one dismissing ideas because of being "fake" without ever defining what it means. So please, enlighten us, we're listening!

Bozja and Eureka are interesting pieces of open-world content, that's true. But they feel more like mini-games to me than, dare I say, real. They are, after-all, all about killing specific amounts of enemies to pop special events. Great way to turn one's brain off and kill mobs for an hour, but there's obviously nothing else to do in there either.

[Rekh]

Only in your head does "stabilized spectacularly since WoD" includes everything before WoD. But I understand that your point only stands if you ignore what I say. Fact is that for the last 10 years, an aging game has managed to keep 95% of it's playerbase per year, that is commendable. Or at least that's what I'd like to say, but it's also important to state that your "source" isn't reliable. Blizzard doesn't actually release sub numbers, it's all just estimates. If you read the article it even "didn’t consider the popularity of WoW Classic and the pandemic’s rise in players. But there’s no way to know". You did read the article, right? It's impressive, to be sure, but most of it's information is informed guesswork (which is my way of saying the actual numbers possibly fluctuate a lot more and aren't in fact, in a constant decline as you claim).

And I'm not asking OP, I'm asking you. You're the one dismissing ideas because of being "fake" without ever defining what it means. So please, enlighten us, we're listening!

Bozja and Eureka are interesting pieces of open-world content, that's true. But they feel more like mini-games to me than, dare I say, real. They are, after-all, all about killing specific amounts of enemies to pop special events. Great way to turn one's brain off and kill mobs for an hour, but there's obviously nothing else to do in there either.

You're way too emotilnal to comprehend that you've been burned to a crisp with actual proof instead of words. The term you're looking for is a slow decline. You're like those politicians that tell the public we're not in a recession because inflation only went up by some small percent this year as opposed to 20% a few years ago.

Turn your brain off at Red chocobo and Castrum Lacus Litore? Sure.

[LisseyCrowe]

You're way too emotilnal to comprehend that you've been burned to a crisp with actual proof instead of words. The term you're looking for is a slow decline. You're like those politicians that tell the public we're not in a recession because inflation only went up by some small percent this year as opposed to 20% a few years ago.

Turn your brain off at Red chocobo and Castrum Lacus Litore? Sure.

"Quick, quick, distract them with the "You're emotional!" because I don't have any substantive evidence to my claims anymore!"

You are correct, I am having fun with this, which is an emotion. But I think my fun's come to an end, since you've made abundantly clear by now you don't have any opinion or stance at all other than a strong desire to appear in the right, despite not even knowing yourself what right means as you cannot explain it, and so you resort to insults and false data all while hoping the other parties don't look into it.

Have a good day sir, though if I may, a suggestion in return. Maybe study a bit on what open-world design is, you'll be surprised to know it doesn't actually mean combat difficulty. I described Eureka/Bozja as "turn-your brain off" content because all you have to do is kill things, not because the content is easy. But then again, how can you be right if you don't misrepresent someone's point in order to have them defend something they never said?