#WukLamatMustDie

[Hallarem]

I'm aware it's speculation on my part, but my point is that Bakool Jaja already has a pretty rough background to, on top of that, being shown as someone who doesn't care enough about his people to know that the Ja tiika leaves are an important part of the mamool ja diet regardless of the existence of xibruq pibil... but also also being so desperate that he will cheat and steal to win the contest for his people.

It's flat out inconsistent, even if he is shown as this sort of simple minded musclehead.

I know I'm cherry picking when singling out how that particular case looks, but as I said, it's a matter that the more I pick at the writing, the worse it gets for me.

And that not even accounting for xibruq pibil being a "come together" dish that only one side can make.

If only Ishgard and Dragonkind would've thought to mash in Shiva and an Ishgardian salt lick together with a side order of mulled wine, there would've been instant peace. *BGM PLAYING: -SMILE- *

[ViaDesperare]

It used to be mixed/mixed, but Wuk is really dragging this expansion down, hard.

[lolnotacat]

It used to be mixed/mixed, but Wuk is really dragging this expansion down, hard.

inb4 you get hit with....
-you're an *ist and/or *phobe!
-iTs tHE StArT oF A nEw 10 YeAr StOrY!
-you're media illiterate
-iTs NoT oUr StOrY!
-Stormblood was worse!
-Lyse was worse
-1.0 Was Worse
-Any other cope I forgot

[Astronema]

we create a primal sarlac pit using a marlboro and cast jarjar garfield in. The slow digestion process will be torture just like the dt msq was.

[Allegor]

inb4 you get hit with....
-you're an *ist and/or *phobe!
-iTs tHE StArT oF A nEw 10 YeAr StOrY!
-you're media illiterate
-iTs NoT oUr StOrY!
-Stormblood was worse!
-Lyse was worse
-1.0 Was Worse
-Any other cope I forgot

I mean, I agree that DT was mediocre, at best, but can't discard the possibility that it's just being review bombed by trolls and the like to get it in the negatives. The MSQ was bad, but not that bad to drag the rest of the game with it.

[lolnotacat]

I mean, I agree that DT was mediocre, at best, but can't discard the possibility that it's just being review bombed by trolls and the like to get it in the negatives. The MSQ was bad, but not that bad to drag the rest of the game with it.

Review bombing is usually a cope/excuse because it will usually go both ways, particularly for products that have a large, toxic positivity crowd like XIV. So with that in mind, even if it is being review bombed and they're not genuine negative review (I know I left one), the positive bombing is still being heavily offset by the negative bombing which would imply that there's at least some credence to the negative score.

[CuteBucket]

The problem is the MSQ was so bad that it really does drag the rest of new content in the game down with it for me. I just don't feel compelled to log in and play when chances are any roulette I do to level is going to put me Dawntrail stuff, which just reminds me how how much of a bad time I was having going through the MSQ. Then I have to go and turn in my tomestones at Solution 9, a badly designed hub city with a Smile remix playing, once again reminding me how much I disliked that whole part of the story when before I was really looking forward to getting to the cyperpunk zone. It's all just so tainted in my mind now. Doing anything in the new zones just reminds me how awful the journey was.

I ran some treasure maps the other day with some friends and I was excited every time we got to go to an old zone again, because those zones have happy memories attached to them. Then someone would link one of the new lv100 map and we'd be back in Heratage found I would remember how annoyed I was with everything happening in the plot here.

[Allegor]

Review bombing is usually a cope/excuse because it will usually go both ways, particularly for products that have a large, toxic positivity crowd like XIV. So with that in mind, even if it is being review bombed and they're not genuine negative review (I know I left one), the positive bombing is still being heavily offset by the negative bombing which would imply that there's at least some credence to the negative score.

That's true, I didn't think of fake positive reviews, just the "hey, the XIV community are making drama, let's join!" crowd - not as to defending DT, mind you, the mixed/bad review is very well earned, just an inevitability since that's how the internet works.

[Rakdar]

The MSQ was bad, but not that bad to drag the rest of the game with it.

While true, the picture above is just the steam page for Dawntrail. The main FFXIV page is still Mostly Positive/Very Positive and most of the recent negative reviews I'm seeing on that are about how awful account related processes are, how much of a slog it is to get to the good stuff, etc.

[Swordsman]

It used to be mixed/mixed, but Wuk is really dragging this expansion down, hard.

The recent reviews on steam may actually be a good statistic for me to add to the Dawntrail reviews thread.

I mean, I agree that DT was mediocre, at best, but can't discard the possibility that it's just being review bombed by trolls and the like to get it in the negatives. The MSQ was bad, but not that bad to drag the rest of the game with it.

If people are really review bombing it on steam it's costing them a lot of money. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe steam requires a player to own a game before they're allowed to leave a review for it.

Edit: Post below me explains it very well, thanks.