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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuuZero View Post
    so.. to give the NIN the ability to boost the potency of Raiju is not worth to do a Ninjutsu for? okay.. with downtime, I meant when the boss isn't targettable. Other Jobs also have skills to do in that situation: SAM have meditation, MNK have forbidden chakra, NIN would have Huton to replenish Kazematoi once the boss is back.
    Yes. You currently just use armor crush to gain the stacks backs when you've reengaged. Sacrificing a ninjutsu isn't worth the potency loss doing that. If this was an honest issue a better solution would be to give us 1 kazematoi per use of Throwing Dagger. Though I would personally prefer the reverse and have kazematoi affect Throwing Dagger.

    That was my Intention and I mean.. currently Kazematoi only boosts Aeolian Edge, to boost more skills with the resource would something I wanna see. And as you implied yourself, you still have to determine what to do with Ninjutsu. A Huton or a Raiton, Huton will boost your next Aoelian Edge & Raiju and Raiton gets Raiju Ready.
    Okay so I don't know how many times I have to say this but it would not be worth using Huton for it over Raiton. Huton would merely be buffing the potency of Raiju at best, Raiton grants Raiju ready. You are still just making Kazematoi a builder spend for your burst.


    Yeah that's another thing which Kazematoi makes it feel useless somehow.. It's a bit sad that we didn't got a Raiju Equivalent for Katon, I mean they still could use the Raiju Button for that Katon Raiju Skill (not unlike Tsubamegaeshi works for SAM) and that Katon Raiju could've been boosted by Kazematoi^^
    I don't really feel like we need a Raiju equivalent in aoe because we already have plenty we use in aoe anyway. The animation for melee range Raiju is so large they could just make that aoe in itself if they really wanted to.

    And no, we don't need Kazematoi on it. I want to see it expanded with other abilities or new abilities to make the filler more engaging not make our burst more crit reliant than it already is.

    Maybe something like Death Blossom generating Kazematoi and the gauge buffing Phantom Kamaitachi, Katon and Hollow Nozuchi.
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    Ryu Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    Yes. You currently just use armor crush to gain the stacks backs when you've reengaged. Sacrificing a ninjutsu isn't worth the potency loss doing that. If this was an honest issue a better solution would be to give us 1 kazematoi per use of Throwing Dagger. Though I would personally prefer the reverse and have kazematoi affect Throwing Dagger.
    Throwing Dagger giving/consuming Kazematoi xD I like that idea^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    Okay so I don't know how many times I have to say this but it would not be worth using Huton for it over Raiton. Huton would merely be buffing the potency of Raiju at best, Raiton grants Raiju ready. You are still just making Kazematoi a builder spend for your burst.
    tbh, it never was (I mean Huton over Raiton) though I'd like to have the Old Huton Philosophy to be preserved for it to be a buff. I had the Scenario in mind that the NIN is out of Kazematoi, the Boss Jumps off into untargettability (maybe casting something or so) and there is nothing to do.. well 1 Huton and 5 Kazematoi are back and ready once the Boss is returns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    I don't really feel like we need a Raiju equivalent in aoe because we already have plenty we use in aoe anyway. The animation for melee range Raiju is so large they could just make that aoe in itself if they really wanted to.

    And no, we don't need Kazematoi on it. I want to see it expanded with other abilities or new abilities to make the filler more engaging not make our burst more crit reliant than it already is.

    Maybe something like Death Blossom generating Kazematoi and the gauge buffing Phantom Kamaitachi, Katon and Hollow Nozuchi.
    if it buffs Katon, Raiton also should be buffed.. or mayber/rather all Ninjutsu for that matter
    to be honest I'm not a fan of AoE Melee Raiju but after what they did to Trick Attack, I can see it.. still not liking it though since FFXIV slowly turns into Dynasty Warriors imo.
    but yeah Kazematoi should have more impact/utility as it currently has.
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