Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

[Gunz_Zbestest]

If Rival Wings is anything to go by, people will still absolutely fail at pressing even 1 button while in a siege weapon (specifically, they use their 1 button on the wrong thing).
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You have this backwards, where premades are a large part of why nobody tries anymore because honestly, why would you? They're either going to spoon-feed you a win, or stomp you into the ground. I have been in matches where 2/3s of the alliance just had to mount up and /follow and we got our win without having to fire a single shot. I've also been on the opposite end, where nothing my team (plus the enemy team) could do to stop the premades. When you have several someones touting a 70%+ win rate, you literally don't need to do anything with them, or you can't do anything against them.

I've been on teams that could win if they just stopped typing and started focusing on the fight at hand and not reviewing it in real time. Matter of fact, I have been on those teams.
Like yes, I did see them cut us in half, we can do that too if you stop complaining and launch back at them.
Unfortunately you get people who say "oh great, I got the losing team again" after one good attack. I've got news for those people. If you're always smelling shit? You might want to check the underside of your shoe. Premades help, but they're not a silver bullet.

[Stasya]

I've been on teams that could win if they just stopped typing and started focusing on the fight at hand and not reviewing it in real time. Matter of fact, I have been on those teams.
Like yes, I did see them cut us in half, we can do that too if you stop complaining and launch back at them.
Unfortunately you get people who say "oh great, I got the losing team again" after one good attack. I've got news for those people. If you're always smelling shit? You might want to check the underside of your shoe. Premades help, but they're not a silver bullet.

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

[AllenThyl]

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

And pray tell, what "unfair advantage" is that supposed to be? Gear means nothing, because every job gets the same stats. There isn't even some specialization, so every job also has the same abilities. And you can switch jobs at will, with something around a 20 second duration at the very start of the game where you can see what your alliance has and make an appropriate decision..

[IDontPetLalas]

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

Both RNG and "the other team" make the win more difficult, however neither guarantees a loss. However as Gunz said, there's a time for discussing how bad a team's RNG is or how 2 other teams are out to get your team, but that isn't in the middle of a match. If you want to take that as "git gud" it would be fair, because some people either throw their hands up in the air and start complaining, or give up - which is easy- and get distracted- the good players adapt their strategy. Which takes more "effort". I put that in quotes, since I would expect if someone isn't there only for tomestones or EXP they may actually enjoy getting better.

[Bobby66]

Very smart person typing "get good lmao" while forgetting rng based spawns and there is another team running around in a match too you know. "Durr i always win blablabla"

Like legit think before you try to defend playing in a match against unfair advantage.

You still have not explained how people are abusing a queue system. They just queue and even queue syncing is far from abuse cause that does not even guarantee they will be on the same team.

[Wilford111]

You still have not explained how people are abusing a queue system. They just queue and even queue syncing is far from abuse cause that does not even guarantee they will be on the same team.

I think they're more upset that the only way you can reasonably win in Frontline nowadays is if you happen to get multiple premades with DRK, AST, DRG, and whatever other meta jobs in your alliance. If you don't see any of those compositions, well, gg.

That is NOT how Frontline is supposed to be, but since SE refuses to put any modicum of effort into balancing this mode, this is what we're left with.

[Mistress_Irika]

I think they're more upset that the only way you can reasonably win in Frontline nowadays is if you happen to get multiple premades with DRK, AST, DRG, and whatever other meta jobs in your alliance. If you don't see any of those compositions, well, gg.

That is NOT how Frontline is supposed to be, but since SE refuses to put any modicum of effort into balancing this mode, this is what we're left with.

Have you consider trying dan-

Echo activates.
Flashback occurs of me charming the entire team while mines runs away to a different objective.
Echo ends. Sighs and walks away.

Never mind. Forget what I was going to say.

[IDontPetLalas]

I think they're more upset that the only way you can reasonably win in Frontline nowadays is if you happen to get multiple premades with DRK, AST, DRG, and whatever other meta jobs in your alliance. If you don't see any of those compositions, well, gg.

That is NOT how Frontline is supposed to be, but since SE refuses to put any modicum of effort into balancing this mode, this is what we're left with.

Well, interesting observation. What do you consider to be "reasonably win"? Because unless you're looking for the proverbial 70% winrate or higher, you can get a decent winrate without stacking "multiple premades". Unless Primal is suddenly becoming an exception due to the recent travel restrictions.

[Commander_Justitia]

Very brave to post screenshots with full names. I am sure the mods don't mind it here and totally wont delete your post.

Just look at that anonymous monk in it, pressing recuperate an amazing 5 times, while receiving a total of 360k dmg, doing a total of 18k dmg
Wow, he managed to press 1 button like at least 3 times in row during 7min.


Meanwhile his warrior friend did 6 times his damage. With the same amount of deaths.

Is it really the premades fault?
Assuming he was afk standing around and only hit somebody at the end, well too bad, you can't kick someone for inactivity, have to wait for 5min in a duty. The match was almost over in that time frame lol. They should reduce it to 2min or something.