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  1. #2651
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    Asane Paran
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcturusWhisper View Post
    Everybody else around her will be tempered. She's a primal I guess.

    This is my headcanon.

    On meta level I get, that it's just the abysmal writing, making her a Mary Sue. But in game, the primal thing is the best explanantion, really.

    I started with Pelu Pelu zone and I rememeber end of its quests, when that NPC says they *love* WL. And I thought - but why?... I could maybe, sort of understand if they liked her, even if I never did myself. But love is such a strong emotion.
    As it turns out, no explanation is needed. Everyone she meets ends up loving her and sooner rather than later.
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  2. #2652
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    Rannie Lfey
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    I wouldn't call a her primal, that's an insult to primals... remember people, stupidity is contagious, so she should be called a plague.
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  3. #2653
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    Annabeth Haythorn
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    tbh might quit the game if she is in the post expansion or next one god forbid, the VA is soo bad and worse is her behavior in social media.
    btw cry all you want im not transphobic im pro lgbtq
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  4. #2654
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    Fiorre Oberecht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I wouldn't call a her primal, that's an insult to primals... remember people, stupidity is contagious, so she should be called a plague.
    She needs to get quarantined. Fucking stupidity of this magnitude is dangerous
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    Last edited by Mnemy; 08-19-2024 at 07:10 AM.

  5. #2655
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemy View Post
    She needs to get quarantined. Fucking stupidity of this manitude is dangerous
    Lock her up in Azys Lamat.
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  6. #2656
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    Goodness, I was so tuned out of the story I completely forgot about the Final Days. It wasn't even mentioned in a single line, was it? Not even a throwaway thing like a Scion saying it appears the lands of Tural were spared from the event. Which narratively makes no sense to me how something of that scale wasn't acknowledged by a single person in the entirety of DT.

    Unless I missed/forgot something?
    No. There was a throwaway line of dialogue when we met - I think - Cahciua where we comment on how we "might have saved the Star" (or something like that - I forget the exact line of dialogue). But we don't elaborate on it, nor are we asked to; and it's almost played off as 'us' being boastful.
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  7. #2657
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    No. There was a throwaway line of dialogue when we met - I think - Cahciua where we comment on how we "might have saved the Star" (or something like that - I forget the exact line of dialogue). But we don't elaborate on it, nor are we asked to; and it's almost played off as 'us' being boastful.
    It's when we meet up or around that time we're with the chick that knew erenville and his momma... at the rubber bullet town. atleast that's one time i remember us being able to click on a dialogue option and specifically chose it.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  8. #2658
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    It's when we meet up or around that time we're with the chick that knew erenville and his momma... at the rubber bullet town. atleast that's one time i remember us being able to click on a dialogue option and specifically chose it.
    Thank you - memory of that line of dialogue is vague and I only really remember it because it irritated me!

    Eitherway, it did feel as if it was played off as us being boastful, and was not helped by the fact that Erenville didn't say anything to support us. And I ended up feeling as if I should've chosen whatever the other option was.
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  9. #2659
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiferia View Post
    I think trying to talk about Wuk Lamat's shortcomings in characterisation is missing the forest for the trees. The issue is that the new writing team seemingly don't know how to execute a full character arc across the form of an MMO expansion story and that is infinitely more concerning to me than one dud character.

    *snip*

    The writing team have simply failed. Wuk Lamat is a primary victim of a far more ominous outlook on the quality of future content, not the perpetrator of a bad story.
    This is actually true. Wuk Lamat is the most grating due to her hogging all the screen time with this level of bad writing. But everything else is ALSO bad, be they new characters like Koana and Zoraal Ja or old characters like Krile or the twins. The new characters all have POTENTIAL, even Wuk Lamat. She has potential, as do others. They are all valid archetype characters that could become lovely if written well. But the devs don't seem to know how to translate a character sheet into an actual character. On paper their traits all look great and it can work, but the execution is sorely lacking. The world building, the logic of the event progression, and all the dialogues, they are so often superficial and bad.

    Gods the dialogues. They are in your face, like rattling off character traits to you without the actual portraying. I am actually rather endeared by Koana because he's a type of character that I do like, but he's also badly written. How he's shown to be caring about his sister is sooooo heavy-handed and ham-fisted it's giving me second-hand embarrassment. It's just all so transparent, we know what they are trying to convey, and they hit you with a dialogue/scenario with zero subtlety, and you are left with feeling ridiculous. I like what he could have been, and I headcanon him to be what he could have been, and he's better written than Wuk Lamat, but at the end of the day, the devs really didn't deliver any well-written characters. Some are better than others, but none can be considered good.

    And plot holes, the abundance of plot holes! *Weeps* Why are the Hanuhanu forgetting about the way their crops are cared for? Why do the WoL and twins allow Wuk Lamat to be kidnap by some random thug? Why do the xenophobic Mamook accept outsiders within half a day? Remember how much effort it took for the Ishgardians to warm up to us? Why are all the scions and WoL just watch Gulool Ja Ja get murdered? It goes on and on...
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    Last edited by ArcturusWhisper; 08-18-2024 at 10:23 PM.

  10. #2660
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcturusWhisper View Post
    And plot holes, the abundance of plot holes! *Weeps* Why are the Hanuhanu forget about the way their crops are cared for?
    I did the Vanuvanu Hanuhanu quests first and I'm still mad about it over a month later. What kills me is that Wuk Evu knew the parade float was an aetheric focus and didn't offer to make repairs until Lamat asked him to, and the head of the village outright admitted that the festival wasn't effective because they had been half-assing it for years! They have an aetheric laser (aaser?) that magically makes their crops better with highly visible and immediate results, and they just didn't care enough to do the ceremony right! "Oh, I'm sad because a storm wrecked a house and someone died. *shrug* I guess we'll all starve." And Wuk Lamat even saw the festival as a kid and didn't know anything about the damn laser beam! I don't think that's something a kid would forget!

    I think that bit of poor writing hit me harder because I'm a farmer in a semi-arid region. I know what it's like to lose a crop to weather. It sucks, to put it mildly. If dancing naked in front of the county courthouse would guarantee a good rain for everyone, I would be putting on two shows a month. It would be stupid not to.
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