The real reason there are even subscribers in 2024

[Somnolence]

because it's an MMO.

MMOs are dead genre.

Not many options, for me FFXIV is the only one that fits so there is no other MMO for me to play.

[CVXIV]

MMOs are dead genre.

Not many options, for me FFXIV is the only one that fits so there is no other MMO for me to play.

Yeah it's a real shame not many new ones come out anymore, but I can understand why. Ashes of Creation seems kind of fun, and I sometimes check out GW2 but I only ever do WvW there lol

[Teno]

MMOs are dead genre.

Not many options, for me FFXIV is the only one that fits so there is no other MMO for me to play.

So dead that it's still one of the most popular genres. Spreading such misinformation needs to stop, it belongs 8 years past. The genre itself takes a lot of resources to maintain and keep up, and trust me it'd be even more alive if it wasn't so difficult to make. That's the one limiting factor to mmos being more popular.

[TDawnstar]

So dead that it's still one of the most popular genres.

Compared to what? MOBAs and various shooters rule the show these days, even more so among the younger generation.

Now, I agree that MMORPGs are still pretty popular, but they all suffer from various issues, be it FFXIV, WoW, LA or others. Which may cause a "stuck" feeling, because, as Somnolence pointed out, there aren't many options if you want to play an MMORPG. Every studio seems to be dead set on shooting themselves in the foot.

[Vinter]

Compared to what? MOBAs and various shooters rule the show these days, even more so among the younger generation.

Yeah but do you want to play a game with a bunch of angry tweens throwing around racist slurs because you're not optimising and they've deluded themselves into thinking they're somehow going to make pro one day by playing ranked? Miss me with that trash. I'm glad League and Valorant exist so we have a cage to put those animals in. Let them be sweaty tryhards over there, away from us decent normal folk. We should all thank the gods they're not playing MMOs.

[Striker44]

So dead that it's still one of the most popular genres. Spreading such misinformation needs to stop, it belongs 8 years past. The genre itself takes a lot of resources to maintain and keep up, and trust me it'd be even more alive if it wasn't so difficult to make. That's the one limiting factor to mmos being more popular.

Calling MMO's "dead" would be inaccurate, but it's also very evident that they're well past their "golden age" or heyday. Back when WoW hit the scene and made it huge, MMO's were *the* thing for people of all ages to play, and rather importantly younger gamers. Today? There's very few teenagers and college kids playing MMO's compared to 15-20 years ago. MMO's are now primarily the home of gamers rapidly approaching (if not already in) middle age, and the "new blood" is heading to other things like MOBA's and mobile games. That's important because it means studios are going to be *very* hesitant to pour the amount of resources you need to make an MMO into a new venture at this point.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Calling MMO's "dead" would be inaccurate, but it's also very evident that they're well past their "golden age" or heyday. Back when WoW hit the scene and made it huge, MMO's were *the* thing for people of all ages to play, and rather importantly younger gamers. Today? There's very few teenagers and college kids playing MMO's compared to 15-20 years ago. MMO's are now primarily the home of gamers rapidly approaching (if not already in) middle age, and the "new blood" is heading to other things like MOBA's and mobile games. That's important because it means studios are going to be *very* hesitant to pour the amount of resources you need to make an MMO into a new venture at this point.

I find this is actually a fun observation of social norms - the newer age group is less prone to forming common communities and are not really as into long-term development buit rather prefer the quick fix and rapid growth; consuming and discarding. So MMO players tend to stick with the people they play with over and over versus MOBA players which might form small clicks of 5-8 folks and then just have a massive list of friends they play with once and a while and they just do all content in the roulette system of their game of choice.