PF is dead

[Hyperia]

Healers are pretty pissed and or demoralized because self sustain of tanks and their ability to heal the raid is so broken that I lack the words for it.

Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

Healing also needs to be more interesting as healing requirements are so low that we have to dps out of boredom. You know, have healers actually need to heal a majority of time.

Devs should consider looking at other games perhaps to better understand how to make healing more interesting and not falling back on dps all the time.

[Dante131]

Healers are pretty pissed and or demoralized because self sustain of tanks and their ability to heal the raid is so broken that I lack the words for it.

Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

Healing also needs to be more interesting as healing requirements are so low that we have to dps out of boredom. You know, have healers actually need to heal a majority of time.

Devs should consider looking at other games perhaps to better understand how to make healing more interesting and not falling back on dps all the time.

let make my stand clear i totally agree with everything you say. Thats why i actually enjoyed Pandemonium 8 so much when it was fresh. the incomming dmg with the bleed debuff been hitting so hard if you slept for one sec or did a glare to much people just died. This was actually fun i had to heal like its in the name not green dps its HEAL. The problem is you have a big number of players who for a stupid reason want to deal more dmg as a HEALER so the players are ( again ) split in grps. Some want more healing and intresting heal encounters, while other want be a dps with faster queue times.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

let make my stand clear i totally agree with everything you say. Thats why i actually enjoyed Pandemonium 8 so much when it was fresh. the incomming dmg with the bleed debuff been hitting so hard if you slept for one sec or did a glare to much people just died. This was actually fun i had to heal like its in the name not green dps its HEAL. The problem is you have a big number of players who for a stupid reason want to deal more dmg as a HEALER so the players are ( again ) split in grps. Some want more healing and intresting heal encounters, while other want be a dps with faster queue times.

It's a mixed bag, truly. There are also groups of (sub)healers who were legitimately babified by Asphodelos tier, thinking they can get by with same methodical approach going into Abyssos only to get slapped hard.

[Dante131]

It's a mixed bag, truly. There are also groups of (sub)healers who were legitimately babified by Asphodelos tier, thinking they can get by with same methodical approach going into Abyssos only to get slapped hard.

i saw many posts where people been litterally crying about healing in content like it hurts in their soul to use a GCD to heal once in 10 minutes. People in this game are so upsessed with dmg thats incredible. I remember once my co heal thought its a great idea to broil his way through the soft enrage of Gaya in Eden 12 on release XD and when people ask him what he was thinking the reacton was like dmg is more important then healing

[Aurumis]

Healers are pretty pissed and or demoralized because self sustain of tanks and their ability to heal the raid is so broken that I lack the words for it.

Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

Healing also needs to be more interesting as healing requirements are so low that we have to dps out of boredom. You know, have healers actually need to heal a majority of time.

Devs should consider looking at other games perhaps to better understand how to make healing more interesting and not falling back on dps all the time.

this is the only real answer

[Somnolence]

Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed.

Healing is not the issue with savage, but mitigation.

Right now raidwides are designed with feint+addle+reprisal+something else in mind.

Pure healer cannot do anything at all if mit is unexpectedly missing since it will cause deaths (and likely is killing the healers themselves and good luck when your magic dps is almost certainly a picto or dying as well).

Only shield healer can do something, and that usually involves GCD shield spamming and experienced healers will rather bail the party that does not mit rather than do that because content so far made GCD-less healing playstyle meta.

For all the overturned tank healing complaints all WAR does in savage is just saves healer resources and makes it more comfy, it does not drastically changes playstyle or cause healer adjustments.

What does far more is GNB and DRK with magic mit on something like M3S where almost all incoming damage is physical.

[Volgia]

Self sustain in general needs to be dialed back to make healers needed. .

Party Finder doesn't even mit, meless don't use second wind or bloodbath, I can understand in a tryhard static trying to make it like this, but when tanks don't even reprisal big AoEs attack I've found out how much healers have to do on pug groups. Not that I disagree that healing should be more interesting than it actually is, but they are definetly needed.