PF is dead

[Dante131]

Dunno, this hasnt been my experience in PF, I am a phys ranged and a healer, but I mostly cant get into parties cuz there is a MCH in every one of them. I went healer cuz I wanted to learn to heal this tier, but I can only do wHM, whcih is a spot thats always filled in every PF I try to enter too lol.

might depend on dc. While i playing on light i have never issues to find a spot as a healer same goes for chaos. but i saw many NA pfs where its quite hard if you are not ( for ever reason ) a barrear healer.

[Valence]

Are people surprised? Rphys has always been the forgotten role that nobody cares about, left in dereliction for years because everybody pretends that it's fine, but meanwhile casters and melees get all the attention.

Now that DT has released we have a combination of things:
- No new rphys, while there is a new melee dps (that is extremely approachable on top of it) and a new caster dps (that is overtuned and easier than BLM). Melee dps are the role that fills the faster in PF even though there is 2 slots for it, it's the spoiled role of the game and has been since forever.
- rphys is in the ditch damage wise like at every expansion launch with more than 10% output behind melees and non rezzing casters.
- See the patchnotes for the changes to rphys, there is a single line about it. Nobody at SE cares. Nobody knows what rphys is supposed to be anymore.

[localareanetwork]

I have no issues filling parties on Aether. I don't think it's people being dissatisfied with the jobs more is it people are probably just on other data centers.

[Reinha]

Lol why would anyone play those garbage roles? If someone wants to do big damage with good mobility and some party mitigation, melee and casters offer that. And if they want to heal, mitigate, shield and protect the party but still do pretty good damage with an actual rotation, they can play tank. Ranged and healers are the roles people wish someone else would play so they don't have to and it's been like that since at least Endwalker.

[Somnolence]

There are indeed shortage of healers in latter floors of savage rn.

Fun snippet from Light DC from some M4S party:

[Sivante]

what is going on in pf I spend hours sitting in groups for them to never fill waiting for healers or Physical Ranged, then the group just falls apart and i jump to the next one. I have never had this hard of a time getting into a full pf group before. Did everyone just quit playing healer and phy ranged or something?

I quit half way through Endwalker and came back switched to tank for the first time since ARR which doesn't help because every pf is always filled up with tanks

The problem is congestion, cross-server nonsense, and the Savage's being particularly easy. I'm not complaining about easy Savages mind you, but they are so easy you can PF them. Which means the large bulk of PF groups I've seen are Savage groups. Swarms upon swarms upon swarms of people PF'ing Savages. And when everyone is sitting in a queue to fill their party, that means they aren't considering or moving to join yours. Waiting for those last two slots in their prog-to-clear practice group is too important to consider doing something lesser, you see.

[OliverQ]

The problem is congestion, cross-server nonsense, and the Savage's being particularly easy. I'm not complaining about easy Savages mind you, but they are so easy you can PF them. Which means the large bulk of PF groups I've seen are Savage groups. Swarms upon swarms upon swarms of people PF'ing Savages. And when everyone is sitting in a queue to fill their party, that means they aren't considering or moving to join yours. Waiting for those last two slots in their prog-to-clear practice group is too important to consider doing something lesser, you see.

Let's not pretend these raids are that easy for the majority of players. I get that's a common saying lately, and it's certainly true for experienced people in statics in full penta-melded crafted gear with past Savage experience. But I can assure you, a ridiculous ton of PFs are absolute dumpster fires. I've spent more time with groups wiping to proteans in M1S than I have clearing any of the new raids.

[OliviaLugria]

what is going on in pf I spend hours sitting in groups for them to never fill waiting for healers or Physical Ranged, then the group just falls apart and i jump to the next one. I have never had this hard of a time getting into a full pf group before. Did everyone just quit playing healer and phy ranged or something?

I quit half way through Endwalker and came back switched to tank for the first time since ARR which doesn't help because every pf is always filled up with tanks

Welp, nothing stopping you from playing those roles

[Supersnow845]

Welp, nothing stopping you from playing those roles

To be fair I don’t blame him for not playing these roles, hell I actually support him not playing those roles

I hope PF completely blows up on the backs of nobody playing healers and physical ranged

[OliviaLugria]

To be fair I don’t blame him for not playing these roles, hell I actually support him not playing those roles

I hope PF completely blows up on the backs of nobody playing healers and physical ranged

I mean, I like phy range, so I don't really care about that to much... but ya, stay off those healers! XD