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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    , including the part where 97.1% of female victims of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only male perpetrators.
    Well, logical if you think really about it and use your brain for more than a mere second : the very vast majority of couple on this planet are Hetero couple... So it's logical that the vast majority of the victim have a male as perpetrator.
    Does it make the other statistic a lie? nope, not in the slighest... Saying otherwise is just hyprocrisy
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    This is actually a myth. Here is a video where a guy explores the study you're citing in depth, including the part where 97.1% of female victims of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only male perpetrators.



    I'm not trying to argue with you or say you're a bigot or whatever is making you get so hostile in response. I am only telling you about my own personal experience with what you are talking about.
    Oh cool he's wrong too.

    The same statistics show that 66% of those lesbians did only ever experience violence at the hands of other women. At best and worst we're both wrong and the statistics suck (which I would agree with).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Well, logical if you think really about it and use your brain for more than a mere second : the very vast majority of couple on this planet are Hetero couple... So it's logical that the vast majority of the victim have a male as perpetrator.
    Does it make the other statistic a lie? nope, not in the slighest... Saying otherwise is just hyprocrisy
    Judging by the quality of their other arguments, I'm not sure they understand what 'per capita' means.

    That said, can we get back to complaining about VAs? That's the thread topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    Oh cool he's wrong too.

    The same statistics show that 66% of those lesbians did only ever experience violence at the hands of other women. At best and worst we're both wrong and the statistics suck (which I would agree with).
    That's because you're missing this part:

    The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators. Similarly, 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 89.5% reporting at least one perpetrator being male. In contrast, 35% of heterosexual women reported having been victim of intimate partner violence, with 98.7% of them reporting male perpetrators exclusively.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domest..._relationships

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Judging by the quality of their other arguments, I'm not sure they understand what 'per capita' means.
    An important thing to note is the distinction "reported".

    In spite of the shocking prevalence of domestic violence (around 1 in 4 women will experience violence at the hands of a partner), according to the Crime Report, nearly half (44%) of domestic violence cases go unreported.
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    Last edited by FlowerMilk; 08-13-2024 at 12:43 PM.

  5. #745
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Judging by the quality of their other arguments, I'm not sure they understand what 'per capita' means.

    That said, can we get back to complaining about VAs? That's the thread topic.
    I can't really comlain.... I play with JP Voices
    But i did listen to some cuscene in English and in French.
    Generally i don't like Dub in my language, especially for Video Game (except for some AAA like Mass Effect and other Bioware games around this time) and Anime (They simply crap, pure crap... In France, Anime Dub aren't taken seriously.... While Movie and Serie have generally good to very high quality Dub... And Video game, only a few dev really take it seriously)
    But even i must say that the (average) French Dub is 10 times better that the English Dub XD
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  6. #746
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    That's because you're missing this part:
    The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators.
    I didn't miss that. The statistics suck and I agreed from a cursory look at the stats provided that I was wrong about Lesbians having the highest rate, but multiple instances of DV can happen from multiple perpetrators and there's not enough data. Unless you're going to infer it from other groups which is disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    I can't really comlain.... I play with JP Voices
    But i did listen to some cuscene in English and in French.
    Generally i don't like Dub in my language, especially for Video Game (except for some AAA like Mass Effect and other Bioware games around this time) and Anime (They simply crap, pure crap... In France, Anime Dub aren't taken seriously.... While Movie and Serie have generally good to very high quality Dub... And Video game, only a few dev really take it seriously)
    But even i must say that the (average) French Dub is 10 times better that the English Dub XD
    French and German put in work. I don't know what the absolute f*** happened with the English dub, but it was... so bad. Just... I don't even know what was going on there. I can only assume someone was pocketing money because it was unacceptably bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    Yeah that's why I quoted someone who prefers to use "Latine" instead explain why. Keep reading.
    I've seen it the first time, I've just ignored it cause the quote is just an random Anecdote and make out a poor argument. It also dosen't change only 3% of Latin Americans in the U.S use it.

    Oh yea and considering your wikipedia article state that the term itself just come from U.S Academia, I can only picture it like every other similar ''woke term''. AKA it just something created by a bunch of White people who want to virtue signal and yap about a culture or sub-culture they barely know about.
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    Last edited by Magikazam; 08-13-2024 at 01:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    French and German put in work. I don't know what the absolute f*** happened with the English dub, but it was... so bad. Just... I don't even know what was going on there. I can only assume someone was pocketing money because it was unacceptably bad.
    And the most funny thing is.... French dub is almost unnecessary.
    There is a lot of French that use JP Voices instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    This is actually a myth. Here is a video where a guy explores the study you're citing in depth, including the part where 97.1% of female victims of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only male perpetrators.
    .
    Literally the top comment in your link pointed out how wrong the statistics were.

    Combined with your demeanor in previous posts, I think you’ve delved to deep in the ideology of yours.
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 08-13-2024 at 01:16 PM.

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