With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[SableHahma]

No honey, she's a transwoman and you're a ciswoman. Get it right. That's her definition of us, we're not equal in her eyes.
The person you responded to, who was responding to me, didn't deny her any 'humanity' but pointed out her behavior, which should be called out and criticized. There's no need to sympathy bait for this.

I too am a transwoman. I have absolutely no issue with anyone complaining about her work as Wuk Lamat, or her poor behavior. I think her calling out that woman for not being trans and saying she should be fired over it is absolutely detestable. I have no interest in defending her. I have no interest in Sena Bryer at all actually. The only point I'm trying to make is that regardless of her behavior or the things she said it doesn't make it okay for people to call her a he, which several people in this thread have done, or to say things like trans women are trying to be like women. We are just women. I have no sympathy for her, but just because she said some bad things doesn't mean we should stoop to her level.

[Rueby]

I too am a transwoman. I have absolutely no issue with anyone complaining about her work as Wuk Lamat, or her poor behavior. I think her calling out that woman for not being trans and saying she should be fired over it is absolutely detestable. I have no interest in defending her. I have no interest in Sena Bryer at all actually. The only point I'm trying to make is that regardless of her behavior or the things she said it doesn't make it okay for people to call her a he, which several people in this thread have done, or to say things like trans women are trying to be like women. We are just women. I have no sympathy for her, but just because she said some bad things doesn't mean we should stoop to her level.

Then I apologize for my heated response. However, the person you quoted who responded to me didn't call her 'he' as far as I know, neither did I. I think you make a reasonable request, however I do doubt you'd find the desired result. I personally don't agree simply because people use it as ammunition to point the metaphorical gun to everyone's head and use the big scary T-word. I have nothing against trans people at all, I've met a few chill ones and I've met a few unhinged ones that sent me to therapy from all the gaslighting. You'll find awful human beings and that fact knows no race, gender or sexuality.

I think people are frustrated/angry that alot of criticism gets deflected, and plenty of bad actors hide behind being LGBTQ to dodge criticism, I've had it happen to me despite being bi I got called a homophobe for hating a gay character (because he was useless) and it got turned into 'nah you hate him because he got it on with a djinn. I think plenty of people came here just to defend Sena, shut down any discussion, go ahead and call everyone weird or transphobe.

I know you probably don't care, but for anyone wondering what the origin of cis/trans is and why it's used for gender identity, here you go:

Thank you for that, that's informative, I'm always open and happy to learn something new. When I read Sena's posts I don't get the feeling of neutrality however, I get a sense of envy and entitlement, and I'm not putting words in her mouth, she broadcasted these feelings herself. She's not even sugarcoating her words, she's spiteful towards 'cis' people because they get jobs and she doesn't and it's not taken out of context either. If there's discrimination, I can understand but it could also be that she's not what they want/need for the job.

I'm sure you'll find a way to take this and twist it into some kind of 'look there's transphobic hate', but I hope I'm wrong.

All those labels, that people put on themselves trying to make them stand out, but all you achieve is another box with yet another label. I don't fit in a box, let alone one with a label, so please, stop putting me in one, because you yourself stepped willingly in one.

So much this.

[Bobby66]

I too am a transwoman. I have absolutely no issue with anyone complaining about her work as Wuk Lamat, or her poor behavior. I think her calling out that woman for not being trans and saying she should be fired over it is absolutely detestable. I have no interest in defending her. I have no interest in Sena Bryer at all actually. The only point I'm trying to make is that regardless of her behavior or the things she said it doesn't make it okay for people to call her a he, which several people in this thread have done, or to say things like trans women are trying to be like women. We are just women. I have no sympathy for her, but just because she said some bad things doesn't mean we should stoop to her level.

Objectively no you are not just a woman you said it yourself you are a "trans" woman. Their is a difference. Biologically speaking you are still a man no matter how you try to dress or present yourself at the core you are a man.

A Biological woman does not need to add some prefix to who they are to denote what type of woman they are.

I say this as someone that is trans. I know I am not a woman no matter how comfortable I feel the reality is I was born a man and always will be a man biologically and to most people publicly.