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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Sena is spouting toxic things about about cisgendered woman and wanting actors to be fired or step down from roles that she feels "don't" belong or fit certain roles. But it's ok for a voice actor representing a company to spout toxic things but apparently it's not ok to dislike her for being a toxic human towards others. Seems it's ok for her to be toxic and hateful and treat other horribly but the same things can't be dished back to her otherwise they get called transphobes and other names.
    At first I thought you were being a little obtuse until-






    That's some method acting, because that's a some catty antics. But I'm sure lashing out at her peers publicly isn't doing her any favors for finding gigs because that just sends a message to HR that she might be a headache to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manamaru View Post
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    Sena has such a delightful personality, doesn't she?
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    Howdy o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manamaru View Post
    At first I thought you were being a little obtuse until-






    That's some method acting, because that's a some catty antics. But I'm sure lashing out at her peers publicly isn't doing her any favors for finding gigs because that just sends a message to HR that she might be a headache to work with.
    Honestly, I'm not surprised and it's sad that I'm not surprised. People will defend that behavior tooth and nail though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Honestly, I'm not surprised and it's sad that I'm not surprised. People will defend that behavior tooth and nail though.
    I support Sena's position!

    Wuk Lamat is a cisgender woman, and should be played by such. Given Sena's previous statements on the matter, I see no reason to believe that they will have any concerns or issues about this, and will readily step down to allow a cisgender woman to play the role of Wuk Lamat going forward in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    I support Sena's position!

    Wuk Lamat is a cisgender woman, and should be played by such. Given Sena's previous statements on the matter, I see no reason to believe that they will have any concerns or issues about this, and will readily step down to allow a cisgender woman to play the role of Wuk Lamat going forward in FFXIV.
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
    What are you fishing for with this obvious bad faith argument? Genuinely curious.
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    Howdy o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    I thought she was a Hrothgar, how do you tell if a Hrothgar is cis or not? How do we know if she's never used a Fantasia?
    She was explicitly targeted as a child because she was a young, female hrothgar? She was referred to as a 'rare, female child' by her biological father and targeted as such, she's consistently referred to as 'she' through the story, her biological father is also a Hrothgar, nobody ever provides any indication she was ever anything different. I think on one or two occasions she even refers to herself as female.

    I genuinely have no idea what your position is here, because if your response to me making the clearly stupid argument, based on her own explicit statements, to prove how absolutely brain-dead a take it is... is to try and argue about the gender identity of a fictional cat I don't even know where to start with you. I hope you are trolling, and if not, may God have mercy on your soul.

    Like, this is one of those cases we have extensive and explicit data on her history; she was given up by her father, clearly young enough she doesn't remember him at all. She's said as much. So unless your argument is a bunch of grown adults in a rural village got a hold of an extremely rare potion and shoved it down a random child's throat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    She was explicitly targeted as a child because she was a young, female hrothgar? She was referred to as a 'rare, female child' by her biological father and targeted as such, she's consistently referred to as 'she' through the story, her biological father is also a Hrothgar, nobody ever provides any indication she was ever anything different. I think on one or two occasions she even refers to herself as female.

    I genuinely have no idea what your position is here, because if your response to me making the clearly stupid argument, based on her own explicit statements, to prove how absolutely brain-dead a take it is... is to try and argue about the gender identity of a fictional cat I don't even know where to start with you. I hope you are trolling, and if not, may God have mercy on your soul.

    Like, this is one of those cases we have extensive and explicit data on her history; she was given up by her father, clearly young enough she doesn't remember him at all. She's said as much. So unless your argument is a bunch of grown adults in a rural village got a hold of an extremely rare potion and shoved it down a random child's throat...
    Quote Originally Posted by Vensaval View Post
    What are you fishing for with this obvious bad faith argument? Genuinely curious.


    holy moly, are you guys okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    holy moly, are you guys okay?
    It's perfectly on brand with everything else you've been posting in this thread. If it was really a joke and we couldn't tell, then it oughta cause you to do some introspection.
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    Last edited by Vensaval; 08-12-2024 at 12:22 PM. Reason: cleanup
    Howdy o/

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    holy moly, are you guys okay?
    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    I get it, when all you got it's a hammer, everything starts looking an awful lot like nails, but that approach usually doesn't work for long.
    I see you haven't learned a thing.
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