Mentors

[ChrysOCE]

Why do you feel that mentors should be mistake free? That's not what the mentor role means

[Vergil_Comedy]

Why do you feel that mentors should be mistake free? That's not what the mentor role means

It's not that they should be mistake free but I know to unlock mentor you need to have max level in a tank, dps, and healer, and you need like 1500 commendations. So with all that play time how do some Mentors still not understand the fundamentals of their classes? I'm not saying a player should be perfect but when I get a mentor who is constantly using cure 1 instead of cure 2 and never uses any other healing when I use all my mits and invuln and I'm still dropping I do not get it.

[Toutatis]

It's not that they should be mistake free but I know to unlock mentor you need to have max level in a tank, dps, and healer, and you need like 1500 commendations. So with all that play time how do some Mentors still not understand the fundamentals of their classes? I'm not saying a player should be perfect but when I get a mentor who is constantly using cure 1 instead of cure 2 and never uses any other healing when I use all my mits and invuln and I'm still dropping I do not get it.

There are 3 roles but a lot more jobs. Atm with the new expansion, people are levelling different jobs and it may have been a job they are not too familiar with. Personally I go with trusts first to get a refresher on those jobs but I got caught queuing on astro last week while fixing glamours thinking I had queued on sage and I was like how does this work again? I was reading my tooltips as we were moving as I had not touched that job since about 3 yrs...

[tsuchii]

its not just mentors, its players in general
it's just coincidence they have the crown
i've played with the worst players with and without the crown
stop the discrimination, hate everyone equally

[GrizzlyTank]

Why do you feel that mentors should be mistake free? That's not what the mentor role means

Everyone knows mentors are infallible!

That's right minions, as a mentor you are beholden to listen to all my commands!

And i command thee!

Brush thy teeth.

[LilyPendragon]

Why do you feel that mentors should be mistake free? That's not what the mentor role means

There's a difference between being mistake free, and not being an embarrassment to the species. The latter of which I see mentors fail far too often.

[CaedemSanguis]

There's a difference between being mistake free, and not being an embarrassment to the species. The latter of which I see mentors fail far too often.

I think the main issue is the crown and the "mentor" terms

It's like having alpha legend title, without having the implied skill/knowledge, it results to mentors having a bad reputation

[Avoidy]

Why do you feel that mentors should be mistake free? That's not what the mentor role means

Probably because someone in a position to offer advice on how to play the game (as the crown is supposed to imply) shouldn't be making newbie mistakes and melting down over basic dungeon pulls.
The crown's heavy; if you don't want people to expect exemplary play from you, then don't wear it.

Of course, reality varies significantly. The real issue is that the crown is just too easy to get, for what it's supposed to imply. Ideally there would be far fewer combat mentors, and the ones you met would've undergone some stringent vetting of some kind, but idc enough to think about ways they could improve it. Current system's trash. So many mentors who don't know jack, out there spreading bad info to new people who trust them because of the crown. Then when people call them on it, it's "why would you expect me to know what i'm doing just because i have this crown that tells people that I know what I'm doing"

[angienessyo]

Of course, reality varies significantly. The real issue is that the crown is just too easy to get, for what it's supposed to imply. Ideally there would be far fewer combat mentors, and the ones you met would've undergone some stringent vetting of some kind, but idc enough to think about ways they could improve it. Current system's trash. So many mentors who don't know jack, out there spreading bad info to new people who trust them because of the crown. Then when people call them on it, it's "why would you expect me to know what i'm doing just because i have this crown that tells people that I know what I'm doing"

I don't think there's really a great way to fix the problem. Even if you double the requirements, people will always find ways to cheese it. (and I'm actually in favor of requiring way more dungeons+commendations) I've seen people ask for requiring savage or ultimate experience for the crown but like, I as well as everyone I know that raids usually just raid logs by the time they're on the reclears step of a tier. I think at the end of the day people have to remember it's a role you get for free and it's something you're not doing for compensation unless you're one of the few people that actually grinds for the mount. You just gotta accept random people that play the game for fun aren't going to always be right or play well.

[CaedemSanguis]

I don't think there's really a great way to fix the problem. Even if you double the requirements, people will always find ways to cheese it. (and I'm actually in favor of requiring way more dungeons+commendations) I've seen people ask for requiring savage or ultimate experience for the crown but like, I as well as everyone I know that raids usually just raid logs by the time they're on the reclears step of a tier. I think at the end of the day people have to remember it's a role you get for free and it's something you're not doing for compensation unless you're one of the few people that actually grinds for the mount. You just gotta accept random people that play the game for fun aren't going to always be right or play well.

they should change the icon and the terms "mentor"

put an "I" icon (ofr information) instead of the crown and rename "mentors" to "helpers" or something else