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  1. #251
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    There is no reason to doubt her.
    People did send death threads and doxxed people for really petty and dumb stuff on the internet.
    Heck people did that just because they were unhappy with the Skin Quality of a specific skin in league of legends, that champion had a very...passionate fanbase and some very bad actors.
    And as additional example poor Jocat got harrased and targeted because of small fun video. He luckily recovered but peopel can be really vile.
    There are people on the internet that do that for completly unimportant stuff like a botched VA Job or being hypocritical on the internet.

    And yes Wildheaven i think its better to risk it and show empathy for someone who could aswell fake it then risk the chance to deny it someone who suffered under it.
    There's plenty of reasons to doubt her. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? It's really a thing.
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  2. #252
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    Midare Dare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What makes it awful to you? Is it because the character doesn't sound like the stereotypic Hispanic as all too often portrayed on TV and in the movies?

    Is it because you're expecting the accent of a certain dialect and aren't hearing it? There are multiple accents within the various Central and South American dialects just as there are within American English and British English.
    There have been various posters that have pointed that her "hispanic" sound it's fake. Me included.

    My source being the fact that I am south american, I live here, and I often hear south american people speaking english. I also hear Spanish people speaking english.

    The inflections she uses are nothing like the ones that are common for us. Not to mention, we're perfectly capable of pronouncing the sound of "ph" syllables because the letter f which has the closest sound, exists in our alphabet.

    Not to say she's the only one guilty of this, because at times Koana's VA seems to be channeling Antonio Banderas, but the difference between, say, Galool JaJa's VA accent which seems closer to authentic, and her, it's very noticeable.

    The fact that that was her "authentic" accent, and that the director said "yeah, that sounds legit to me", makes it mind boggling on both sides.
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    Last edited by Midare; 08-08-2024 at 01:06 PM.

  3. #253
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    There's plenty of reasons to doubt her. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? It's really a thing.
    I mean...for that metaphor she would need to claim it constantly and would need to be proven wrong, which isnt really doable.
    And i know enough similar cases of harassment that it has a good chance to be true. Something brought her into the spotlight and some attack happy people desent on the poor person. :/

    Besides that the story with the Wolf that cried wold ends with the tragedy that nobody came when the wolves appear. Which would support my original approach that its better to show kindness than regret it at the end.
    And we saw enough "Wolves" in this very Thread so no i have no doubt that she gets harrased.
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    Last edited by Ayalu; 08-08-2024 at 12:25 PM.

  4. #254
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Nothing productive comes from Twitter, it seems like most people are just there for attention seeking, or to be a Drama Queen. If you're really recieving death threats why don't you do something like maybe... Report it to the police? Back it up with evidence? Stop giving your harassers the spotlight to let them know they got to you. Did nobody learn how to deal with this kind of crap with bullies in school? The true motivation behind this is probably just to farm out attention for pity and clout points, and to put themselves out there for future employers to notice.

    And yes, the voice acting in this expansion sucked. Thats not even up for debate. Is anyone going to tell me the flat delivery of lines, awful fake accents, and embarassing dialogue is deserving of praise? It's not. Go replay the cutscenes in Shaaloni and tell me the American accents there were great. Go tell me that Cahciua (Or however tf you spell her name) didn't have some of the weakest voice acting in this entire expansion. Whose fault is it? I don't care. I'm the end consumer, and its not my job to dissect the inner workings of CBU 3 or the Localization teams. Vote with your wallet if it really matters to you that much.
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  5. #255
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    F'helix Fraldarius
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    There's a lot of posts in these pages of actual valid critique of Sena's performance, and I appreciate those. For the few people who insist on misgendering her, though, it really kills all credibility of your criticism. I can dislike her VA work and also think her twitter posts are super cringe and don't make her look like a pleasant person to be around without misgendering her. It's just going to get yet another thread locked. It's rude. Don't do it.
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  6. #256
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    There is no reason to doubt her.
    People did send death threads and doxxed people for really petty and dumb stuff on the internet.
    Heck people did that just because they were unhappy with the Skin Quality of a specific skin in league of legends, that champion had a very...passionate fanbase and some very bad actors.
    And as additional example poor Jocat got harrased and targeted because of small fun video. He luckily recovered but peopel can be really vile.
    There are people on the internet that do that for completly unimportant stuff like a botched VA Job or being hypocritical on the internet.

    And yes Wildheaven i think its better to risk it and show empathy for someone who could aswell fake it then risk the chance to deny it someone who suffered under it.
    It’s #MeToo #BelieveAllWomen #VictimsDontLie all over again
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  7. 08-08-2024 01:26 PM
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    On second thought, I'd rather not say anything. Please be kind and civil.

  8. #257
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    There is no reason to doubt her.
    People did send death threads and doxxed people for really petty and dumb stuff on the internet.
    Heck people did that just because they were unhappy with the Skin Quality of a specific skin in league of legends, that champion had a very...passionate fanbase and some very bad actors.
    And as additional example poor Jocat got harrased and targeted because of small fun video. He luckily recovered but peopel can be really vile.
    There are people on the internet that do that for completly unimportant stuff like a botched VA Job or being hypocritical on the internet.

    And yes Wildheaven i think its better to risk it and show empathy for someone who could aswell fake it then risk the chance to deny it someone who suffered under it.
    Yeah, no. As a victim of false accusations, I don't play the "trust me, bro" game when it comes to this. Everyone can lie, and the type that plays the victim card for everything under the sun lies more than most.
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  9. #258
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    N'oah Vestalia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandi View Post
    I believe the current situation of outright hatred in these forums toward Wuk Lamat has grown enough to draw attention to a very serious matter.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...XTF4JIHhOBAQAA

    Many of you have very respectfully given feedback on a few of the elements you’ve found needing adjustment, along with suggestion to improve them. That’s what the forums are for. Many, many, many others of you, multiple times, have openly voiced your disgust, contempt, outright hatred of said character for ruining your experience in Dawntrail.

    And now, a few of you, for WHATEEEEEVER reason…have felt justified in doing the above. This particular brand of malice, like I said in another post. . .is disgusting. I’ve been playing 14 since 2.0 and I have not once seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what’s transpired here, be it this forum, Reddit, wherever. Not the first time, but this…
    the problem IS NOT THE VA, it's the character, THE CHARACTER, she is NOT the character, PEOPLE SHOULD SEPARATE VA FROM FICTIONAL CHARACTER. And ACCEPT the character is fucking bad written and that's why people hates it. NOT THE PERSON WHO VOICES IT.
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  10. #259
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    There is no reason to doubt her.
    The fact that when she post and show exemple of the ''bullying'' she just show a normal criticism that while being harsh, it don't insult her or her character personally. Like for someone who claim they get targeted daily by tons of bully, she don't even show a post that just an clear attack on her.
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  11. #260
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    Laura Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurumis View Post
    the problem IS NOT THE VA, it's the character, THE CHARACTER, she is NOT the character, PEOPLE SHOULD SEPARATE VA FROM FICTIONAL CHARACTER. And ACCEPT the character is fucking bad written and that's why people hates it. NOT THE PERSON WHO VOICES IT.


    The VA is as problematic as a person than as the character.
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    Last edited by SophiaDL; 08-08-2024 at 02:10 PM.

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