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    Vandi's Avatar
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    Devil'von Panzerfaust
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    Dragoon Lv 100

    With Apologies to Sena Bryer

    I believe the current situation of outright hatred in these forums toward Wuk Lamat has grown enough to draw attention to a very serious matter.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...XTF4JIHhOBAQAA

    Many of you have very respectfully given feedback on a few of the elements you’ve found needing adjustment, along with suggestion to improve them. That’s what the forums are for. Many, many, many others of you, multiple times, have openly voiced your disgust, contempt, outright hatred of said character for ruining your experience in Dawntrail.

    And now, a few of you, for WHATEEEEEVER reason…have felt justified in doing the above. This particular brand of malice, like I said in another post. . .is disgusting. I’ve been playing 14 since 2.0 and I have not once seen the collective community go behind the scenes/character to do what’s transpired here, be it this forum, Reddit, wherever. Not the first time, but this…
    (76)
    ‘He who has no expectations will never be disappointed.’

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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Shiva
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    Scholar Lv 93
    Oh dear heavens above, here we go again....
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    Oh dear heavens above, here we go again....
    "It was me Barry! I sent those twitter messages to Sena Bryer at super sonic speeds so the FFXIV General Forum will be flooded with non-stop culture war threads about her!"

    (16)
    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Don Don
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    Yeah they're not even pretending that this is a discussion on criticism of the VA anymore lol, they're just straight up admitting it's about their hatred of queer people. Great job.
    I know, I gasped after reading that. Hopefully they get some help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You said something similar to me once, but I appreciate what you're trying to do. I think what you have to see though is that it's simply not worth engaging with these people (yah, "these people" ).

    Report and move on. You'll notice that they get themselves in a frenzy whenever someone dares to challenge their nonsense. What happens when they're left to their own is that they eventually end up just going so far off topic with insane rants about minorities that it becomes very easy to simply report them. No engagement needed.

    There is no conversation to be had here, and as frustrating as it is to see outright hate speech being allowed on the official forums, you can't fight it if the mods refuse to intervene.
    So true. These people will always find an outlet where they can rant and be hateful, and it's always somewhere that's poorly moderated since most other places would ban them instantly. It just stinks that it has to be these forums, but whatever, hopefully this won't last for the entire expansion.
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    Chamomile Tea
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Donoman View Post
    So true. These people will always find an outlet where they can rant and be hateful, and it's always somewhere that's poorly moderated since most other places would ban them instantly. It just stinks that it has to be these forums, but whatever, hopefully this won't last for the entire expansion.
    In like a month their favorite Youtuber will tell them some other game is doing "woke DEI" and they will go throw a tantrum about that game instead, don't worry.
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    Spurdo Fugger
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    In like a month their favorite Youtuber will tell them some other game is doing "woke DEI" and they will go throw a tantrum about that game instead, don't worry.
    Talk about pot calling the kettle black. Why are you pretending that the people being critical of Sena and their performance are the NPC's who blindly follow youtuber opinions, when we all know the only reason you're defending them is because they are/you are transgender. You have expressed exactly zero cogent arguments and just point and say TRANSPHOBE!!! as if that means anything.
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    Sivante Si'akea
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    Zalera
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    "It was me Barry! I sent those twitter messages to Sena Bryer at super sonic speeds so the FFXIV General Forum will be flooded with non-stop culture war threads about her!"
    Every time I see you post something I enjoy it. +1 to you. Big Lala energy. /pet, etc.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    What this community fails to realize is that the problem isn't exclusive to the VA herself.

    She's a half decent VA at parts through the story, but I think some of the voiced lines should have gone through multiple takes before being accepted. Some of this just strikes a lack of quality management versus something that I think should be on the VA.

    I would also say that you could put your subjectively best VA on the planet in her role, with her same voiced dialogue and frankly nothing will have changed, because a lot of it is just down to not being well written.

    That being said, this is disgusting behavior.
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    Negative Space
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    Seraph
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    Fisher Lv 100
    The horse has long returned to dust--beating the spot where it died is now a matter of tradition.
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    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Winter Kipu
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Sena needs to stop posting about this online and go to the police, this is not the first time death threats are being made. If anything doing this proves the agressors are causing an effect and encourages them to continue.
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