Feedback: Dawntrail MSQ dungeon difficulty

[Lizvette]

The community is split already... and frankly, who are you to say what people "consider"? Your bias is quite evident, along with the sneering dismissiveness of peoples' concerns.

who are you to tell other people what can they say? your bias is quite evident, along with smug dismissiveness of people's opinions.
now please, present me all your credentials before i decide if your opinion is to be taken seriously. otherwise, i might just say "who the heck are you" as response and just win the argument.

see? that's literally how you sound.
at some point, you'll just accept that the "split community" is split, at worst, 95% of people in favor of making the game fun again and 5% of people who can't deal with sastasha.

[Jaxtaro]

Disagreeing with you, and pointing out your weak arguments isn't "telling you what to say". What a vapid, pedantic response. You really should strive to do a lot better. Because that was a complete fail.

You're making all sorts of speculative claims, hyperbolae, and downright unsupportable claims. You have absolutely no idea whether "95% of people in favor of making the game fun again", you simply cannot back such a claim up. There isn't even universal agreement on what fun even is, much less defining it to match your presuppositions.

[Lizvette]

Disagreeing with you, and pointing out your weak arguments isn't "telling you what to say". What a vapid, pedantic response. You really should strive to do a lot better. Because that was a complete fail.

i don't know man, you really give a lot of "who?" vibes whenever you disagree with me. i'm not sure if i can trust you on this.

There isn't even universal agreement on what fun even is, much less defining it to match your presuppositions.

waaaaaaaaaait. are you telling me you cannot "objectively" measure it? it's almost like... everyone has a bias, right? so... bias in considering what is fun or not - is it a natural thing to have or should we just completely overlook all comments that show it? i mean, your bias is quite evident.


and yes, i'm gonna continue doing this. YOU'RE the one who started with a "who are you" response and set the level of arguments acceptable. you are not to be taken seriously from that point forward in this thread.

[Jaxtaro]

Except that your "I know you are but what am I?" debate style went out of fashion in the 3rd grade...for slow kids.

To add upon the heaps of really bad arguments, you are the one who keeps making claims of knowing what universal opinions are, it's more than a little bizarre to back into a "of course everyone is different" argument after being called out on it.

[Lizvette]

Except that your "I know you are but what am I?" debate style went out of fashion in the 3rd grade...for slow kids.

To add upon the heaps of really bad arguments, you are the one who keeps making claims of knowing what universal opinions are, it's more than a little bizarre to back into a "of course everyone is different" argument after being called out on it.

i wonder when it's going to sink in for you that you're the slow kid in here, both in gameplay and arguments. therefore, i'd suggest not acting like you're above this - you're the one who started and nobody will be gaslit.

[Banggugyangu]

No, i do not think that should have any bearing on roulette

Implementing easier difficulties for dungeons ABSOLUTELY should have bearing on roulettes. You SHOULD NOT be able to enter dungeons on roulettes that you are incapable of clearing at their intended difficulty. Roulettes ARE NOT for the person queueing up in roulettes. Roulettes are for the people queueing naturally for older content. If I were a new player queueing for Aurum Vale and I had a level 100 player in my roulette that was incapable of clearing the first boss, I'd be pissed. (Aurum Vale is harder than DT stuff, btw.)

[Jaxtaro]

i wonder when it's going to sink in for you that you're the slow kid in here, both in gameplay and arguments. therefore, i'd suggest not acting like you're above this - you're the one who started and nobody will be gaslit.

It isn't going to sink in, because I personally have zero issues with any content myself, I'm just receptive enough to realize that my experience isn't everyone's experience, but even better yet, low IQ bullying tactics don't faze me even a tiny amount, especially when howling that you're being "gaslit", it's cute actually.

I engaged with you precisely because you were bullying someone else, and using weak claims to do so. Pointing out that you don't speak for everyone is hardly "gaslighting".

[Lizvette]

It isn't going to sink in, because I personally have zero issues with any content myself, I'm just receptive enough to realize that my experience isn't everyone's experience, but even better yet, low IQ bullying tactics don't faze me even a tiny amount, especially when howling that you're being "gaslit", it's cute actually.

I engaged with you precisely because you were bullying someone else, and using weak claims to do so. Pointing out that you don't speak for everyone is hardly "gaslighting".

>"i am receptive enough"
>"your bias is showing"
pick one - bias is okay or not. you're flip flopping over what you actually say. and no, before you cry "low IQ", i perfectly understand what you're saying, you're just literally so bad at being consistent with your reasoning that it's pointless to talk to you.

your claims are "i am old" and "who are you?". again, you are an individual unworthy of being taken seriously, not in a position to judge me or anyone, therefore i will meme on you any time you reply to me. feel free to stop. be the bigger man.

that "someone else" i was """bullying""" is the exact type of person like you - calling others "low IQ" due to disagreements.

you are what you hate the most - a toxic, holier than thou player who cannot accept they are simply wrong, sorry. then again, who are you again to reply to me?

[Banggugyangu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0Qda32IKM

[Lizvette]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0Qda32IKM

can't be friends with people who think they're so far above average player they're calling them low iq and what not
but it's okay, i'm done with him anyway, now he'll just scream into the void

edit: WAR is amazing, thanks for reminding me of their existance, lmao