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    im just here to block the transphobes that reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by vafurous View Post
    im just here to block the transphobes that reply
    'Transphobe is when you say the voice actress did a bad job '
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    'Transphobe is when you say the voice actress did a bad job '
    ok just choose to ignore the people that actively misgender sena on these forums and In This Thread and assume im talking out of my ass, you do you man
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    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by vafurous View Post
    ok just choose to ignore the people that actively misgender sena on these forums and In This Thread and assume im talking out of my ass, you do you man
    Pls don't misgender me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Pls don't misgender me.
    my bad you do you bestie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    I mean one can condemn the harrasment and death threads hurled at of her and Transphobic tendencies observerved in the Forum (no not every critic is transphobic, but some people certainly act that way) while also being against weird stuff Sena has said. Those things are not mutual exclusive.

    On a pure basic level, i will fight that people have equal rights.
    And of course LGBTQIA+ People are still...well people. We all are different some People nice and pleasant some, some are impulsive and energetic, some..rather unpleasant.
    People are people with all there different facets.
    Yeah, this.

    I can still think she's a jerk for her own comments, but that has absolutely zero to do with her identity because hey, being people too, trans folks can also have bad takes and flaws like the rest of us (doubly so when they make the same mistake a lot of people do by posting it on Twitter, oof!). But she sure as hell didn't say anything to warrant the harassment and threats she's gotten. Same thing with the transphobes here, they're getting rightly bodied for their attitude and actions, not because they happen to be white, black, man, woman, gay, lesbian, etc. (And no, if they get moderated that isn't "harassment or threats" lol.)

    That said, it's my understanding that Dawntrail's EN VA performance in general was subpar? Like, it wasn't even just Wuk Lamat, but even long time characters with established EN VA like some of the Scions sounded rushed/phoned in? If that's the case, it might be worth giving the whole English voice track of Dawntrail a redo (I can think of worst things they could spend my sub/cash shop money on). As well, I've been told that Wuk Lamat isn't terribly popular JPN, EU, or OCE side either, which means the problems with the character are entirely on the writers and not the VA because it sounds like *none* of them could salvage what they had to work with. Asking for a rewrite isn't quite as feasible I think, since so much of the story is tied into the cutscenes and gameplay, which means the only recourse there is to simply "do better" going forward.

    So yeah, not liking the character, writing, and performance is valid if Square-Enix really did drop the ball on all fronts, and even disliking Sena due to her comments makes sense too, but it's entirely possible to dislike all these things without being transphobic about it whatsoever, but that seems to be the ball a part of the community is dropping right now themselves, and it'll only serve to undermine actually valid criticism about SE's current work. (And the last thing you want to give them is a free pass to ignore any problems when they make enough excuses already.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vafurous View Post
    im just here to block the transphobes that reply
    I just wish the mods would moderate their own official forum ffs... I know not many people use it, but it's still part of the FFXIV community, and seeing it portrayed in this light is not good. None of the things being said here would be acceptable in-game, on reddit, or on any other ffxiv community website or discord. It's really annoying how the players do a better job of making the communities not turn into a cesspool like this current one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donoman View Post
    I just wish the mods would moderate their own official forum ffs... I know not many people use it, but it's still part of the FFXIV community, and seeing it portrayed in this light is not good. None of the things being said here would be acceptable in-game, on reddit, or on any other ffxiv community website or discord. It's really annoying how the players do a better job of making the communities not turn into a cesspool like this current one.
    It is being moderated, look at the general forum menu threads, it shows how many posts have been deleted on each thread on the righthand side. You're just mad they aren't moderating posts that express views you don't agree with. You don't want moderation, you want censorship.
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    Last edited by x037x; 08-07-2024 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x037x View Post
    It is being moderated, look at the general forum menu threads, it shows how many posts have been deleted on each thread on the righthand side. You're just mad they aren't moderating posts that express views you don't agree with. You don't want moderation, you want censorship.
    Well, I know you're happy that you found a safe space where you can spread your hate, lol. How are your views working for you in the other communities? I'm sure you must be insanely popular in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donoman View Post
    Well, I know you're happy that you found a safe space where you can spread your hate, lol. How are your views working for you in the other communities? I'm sure you must be insanely popular in them.
    What hate? If you can't deal with criticism get off the internet. "Safe spaces" ruin every single chance of having discussion because there is always someone offended over nothing. People instantly call you names if you don't agree with their views or ways of thinking.
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