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  1. #11
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    We needed an 8th thread about this
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  2. #12
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    Elina Serat
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    Exactly why I do not care for the voice actor. They've been having fun going after everyone else with their holier-than-thou nature, but the moment someone bites back, they cannot take the bullying that they were dishing out.

    I have no patience for people like this anymore because I know the game they play and the lies they will tell or truths to exaggerate.
    Haters will say he's transphobic.
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  3. #13
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    Though the internet has many bad people on it, and I will not doubt that someone did send at least one threat of some kind...let us be honest, I am pretty sure the voice actor did not get a wave of threats as they claimed. Jullie Smollet all over again.
    It’s just sad that people hide behind LGBTQ and label valid criticism as transphobic. Like I have a trans friend I play final fantasy almost everyday and being in voice with them talking and even they said this behaviour just undermines all the problems they have. Being open and decent human being and accepting flaws and failures in this time and age is pretty rare.
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  4. #14
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu90 View Post
    Haters will say he's transphobic.
    Yeah sadly valid criticism isn’t allowed if the person you do it against is LGBTQ. Be ready to be called the classical word.
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  5. #15
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    It is amazing that the experience is suddenly removed from everyone just because of one character, I think Wuk is a fresh new personality that we should embrace, however hates is going to be hater and especially for no given reason, which I don't really get.. each expansion is not the second coming of whatever special person whenever it get ti it, it is a game, enjoy the game, if don't like the game find another game.
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  6. #16
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    NegativeS's Avatar
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    Negative Space
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    Seraph
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    It is amazing that the experience is suddenly removed from everyone just because of one character, I think Wuk is a fresh new personality that we should embrace, however hates is going to be hater and especially for no given reason, which I don't really get.. each expansion is not the second coming of whatever special person whenever it get ti it, it is a game, enjoy the game, if don't like the game find another game.
    I think the issue is the fact that the 'story-first MMO' somehow managed to bungle the story--you don't see this kind of stink being stunk in WoW, for example. And they not only bungled the story, but stapled our character to a new face that many have deemed insufferable for a variety of reasons.

    I agree that people should play games that they enjoy, but 'if you don't like it find something else' has always been a toxic and unhelpful rebuttal to criticism.
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  7. #17
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    Thea Pico
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    Warrior Lv 100
    This very forum has an endless stream of awful people who use every relevant thread to insult Sena Bryer, attack her identity, and deliberately refer to her incorrectly no matter how many times you point out it's wrong. To all of you who join in on attacking her, where is your limit? Why have you not taken a moment to dismiss the ones who are posting bigoted harassment against her? I've never seen any of you make even a single sentence distancing yourself from the discriminatory comments before you continue the chains in those same threads.

    Your feedback cannot be taken in good faith if you're willingly standing with toxic figures. You know that.
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  8. #18
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    Thea Pico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu90 View Post
    Haters will say he's transphobic.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    They do not need to considering they are all women. The english voice actor...is not. Which is why they come across as a very flamboyant gay man.
    And the haters would be correct.
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  9. #19
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    Vin Helsing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    This very forum has an endless stream of awful people who use every relevant thread to insult Sena Bryer, attack her identity, and deliberately refer to her incorrectly no matter how many times you point out it's wrong. To all of you who join in on attacking her, where is your limit? Why have you not taken a moment to dismiss the ones who are posting bigoted harassment against her? I've never seen any of you make even a single sentence distancing yourself from the discriminatory comments before you continue the chains in those same threads.

    Your feedback cannot be taken in good faith if you're willingly standing with toxic figures. You know that.
    I keep telling myself to not reply to posts like yours cause it's just virtue signalling nonsense.

    However, to entertain myself and the masses who will read this...

    1) Respect is earned.

    2) Bullying begets bullying.

    3) This is the internet. Everyone receives threats or insults.
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  10. #20
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    Thea Pico
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    I keep telling myself to not reply to posts like yours cause it's just virtue signalling nonsense.
    Then don't reply.
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