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  1. #441
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    LilyPendragon's Avatar
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Every time someone posts a comment like "I can't believe this is still up!" you're actually bringing the thread back to the front page, making it seem more active than it is. If you want the thread to fade away, it's better to avoid commenting altogether. Your remarks contribute less to the discussion than the off-topic posts do.
    Lol you misunderstand my intent. I don't care if it's active or not, I enjoy watching the trainwreck. I'm just surprised is all. Plus this thread had just been bumped when I posted
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  2. #442
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    Bopsheezi Tenebrae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    Every time someone posts a comment like "I can't believe this is still up!" you're actually bringing the thread back to the front page, making it seem more active than it is. If you want the thread to fade away, it's better to avoid commenting altogether. Your remarks contribute less to the discussion than the off-topic posts do.
    If this place was actually moderated it would help catch the attention of the mods.

    There's no more discussion to be had. Both sides are now talking to walls.
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  3. #443
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    TKOtheKDR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiru_Kai View Post
    A lot of people misunderstand DEI. You seem to be one of them.

    We have a society. Let's say that 2% of people are *insert_minority_here*.
    Then logically speaking, any company, institution, and etc will, in an equal world, sorta come close to a 2% representation of that minority as well. But, this is not often the case.
    DEI just aims to make people aware of that ratio.

    It's not a perfect system. You can criticize it. But usually the people criticizing it don't criticize the execution of it, they just say "it's bad, it needs to go away", meaning they disagree with the concept entirely and then do a little handwave as if it explains all the bad things that corporations do.
    Disagreement with the concept entirely is often rooted in bigotry. Because if you believe in equality and equity like a decent human being should, DEI is just... nothing to be worried about.

    More arguments can be along the lines of "they intentionally hire worse people for the job just to meet DEI requirements". Again, such an argument is often rooted in an assumption that the minority hire was not the best option available. That all the hire could do was meet some sort of DEI quota for representation. But that is a WILD guess, and it shows some unspoken judgement on the decision. Because you would not be blaming DEI or some such for the bad performance of the hire, if the bad hire wasn't a minority. You can just point out "that was a mistake" without ever mentioning DEI or the hire's minority status. But the simple fact that someone DOES do that, is just a dead giveaway what they think.
    Correct implementation of DEI means that, given all things are equal, and two people apply to the same job with the same qualifications and the same experience, but one of them is a minority. Then DEI guidelines might tip the scales and give a benefit to someone part of a minority group IF it leads to better representation of that minority within the corporation. But we do not know who else was approached to be the voice of Wuk Lamat, for example. So to claim the 'bad performance' is because of "DEI preferable treatment", is a logical leap that can be easily interpreted as bigotry against a minority.
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  4. #444
    Player JimCasey_RF6's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopsheezi View Post
    If this place was actually moderated it would help catch the attention of the mods.

    There's no more discussion to be had. Both sides are now talking to walls.
    I think light forum moderation has been the right choice to allow the forum community to develop and mature as naturally as possible.

    The vast majority of interactions I see between forum users are respectful, even when opposing views are shared.

    Whatever the moderation team is currently doing is working and has resulted in fostering a healthy environment to come and express feedback about the game.
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  5. #445
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimCasey_RF6 View Post
    I think light forum moderation has been the right choice to allow the forum community to develop and mature as naturally as possible.

    The vast majority of interactions I see between forum users are respectful, even when opposing views are shared.

    Whatever the moderation team is currently doing is working and has resulted in fostering a healthy environment to come and express feedback about the game.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

  6. #446
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    Bonoki's Avatar
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopsheezi View Post
    If this place was actually moderated it would help catch the attention of the mods.

    There's no more discussion to be had. Both sides are now talking to walls.
    Translation: “If only the mods would delete everything I find no value in.” I know it’s shocking, but not everything you don’t like is against the ToS. Maybe it’s not being moderated because there’s nothing here worth moderating. Conversations evolve, drift, and sometimes even come full circle—it’s called a discussion. New posts mean people still find the thread worth talking about. If you’re not interested, your comments are just adding to the derailment. Let people discuss what they want; it’s not harming you if they find value in a topic you’ve lost interest in.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  7. #447
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    WhensMarvel's Avatar
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    Conservatives are so weird man who plays a video game and then goes like "I NEED TO KNOW WHICH GENITALS THIS VOICE ACTOR HAS" lmfao
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  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhensMarvel View Post
    Conservatives are so weird man who plays a video game and then goes like "I NEED TO KNOW WHICH GENITALS THIS VOICE ACTOR HAS" lmfao
    Liberals are so weird man who plays a video and then goes like "THIS IS MY NEW FAVORITE CHARACTER BECAUSE THE VA IS TRANS" lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorzean_username View Post
    My favorite part of all these theatrics is that even when people know it's 2 alts arguing with each other, you still see about a 50/50 split of Likes between one post or the other.

    The entire world, united together under the banner of, "I don't care, as long as the sockpuppet is saying something I agree with!"

  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKOtheKDR View Post
    *img*
    Oh hey it's you.
    Do you not have a rock to crawl under and feel terrified of the real world™?
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  10. #450
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Liberals are so weird man who plays a video and then goes like "THIS IS MY NEW FAVORITE CHARACTER BECAUSE THE VA IS TRANS" lmfao
    Ah yes, conservatives and liberals, the two genders
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