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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferMournstar View Post
    It's... not something I like to talk about. I am a small 5'5" man and I can tell you i was perceived as "weak" for a long time because it happened. I've moved past it for the most part, but certain things do make me highly uncomfortable because of it. I do everything I can to make sure I don't treat anyone unfairly because of what happened to me.
    I'm sorry for what happened to you. No one should be harassed like that. When it's done by a biological male it elicits a special kind of fear that everyone who has experienced it first hand will recognize. Oftentimes our lizard brain can alert us of a very real danger before any harm has taken place, and ignoring it can have dire consequences. You are not wrong to be cautious around people who make you feel uncomfortable.
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickPaws View Post
    "Lalalala, cancel culture has never existed"
    It's not like anyone has ever had their lives ruined by activists taking a special interest and going out of their way to be malicious. It's not like anyone has ever lost a job, had a career ruined or a family torn apart as a direct result of left-wing activism taking place in very public spaces on the internet... That's *NEVER* happened. And you seriously sit there and question why I'd compare your ideology to the Ministry of Truth.
    Besides, you didn't get the memo I see - the narrative switched a while ago from "Doesn't exist" to "Yes, it exists, but it's a good thing when we do it." You might need to get your latest update.

    I also find it absolutely wild that you'd say as a direct response to someone coming out about harassment, and I quote "now you know what women have to face everyday with some straight men." Damn, dude. Where's the empathy I've heard so much about? It only exists when it's convenient to your argument.
    I'm not going to get much farther into it, but suffice to say that's the big problem i've been trying to point out in this and other threads. Fear. I've had several times in my life where the color of my skin, my sexuality, and my sex/gender as a "CiS Straight White Male" has kept me from speaking out. Not from bigotry or hatred, but from genuine fear. Everyday I have to be so careful, because all it takes is one, one "label" tossed on me... and everyone hates me. Does it happen often? No, not at all. It's rare, but it has happened to me. I freely admit I am a small, timid, and shy man. I have never been so afraid as I am today. God, I know this sounds like a stupid sob story but it's... it's kind of nice to just finally say it. I don't know what to do anymore, I feel like my life from here on out is going to be lived in fear.
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    So ‘LGBTQ+’ has to ‘be better’ yet the rest can just keep doing as they’re doing? Sounds like a double standard to me. Maybe take your own advice before foisting it upon others
    Nice attempt at a strawman you got there. Sadly for you I neither stated that my advice was only targetted at LGBTQ nor that the other can just ''keep doing as they're doing''.

    My only point is that the moment you step down to the level of a bully/bigots and use the same ''tactic'' as them, is also the moment you stop being a victim and become an hypocrite.
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  4. #274
    Player LuciferMournstar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    I'm sorry for what happened to you. No one should be harassed like that. When it's done by a biological male it elicits a special kind of fear that everyone who has experienced it first hand will recognize. Oftentimes our lizard brain can alert us of a very real danger before any harm has taken place, and ignoring it can have dire consequences. You are not wrong to be cautious around people who make you feel uncomfortable.
    I was in a blind panic during the whole thing. Luckily my boss was woman in her 40's who knew exactly what to do. I was only 22, and had no idea. My biggest concern was losing my job if he decided to start telling people I was a bigot or homophobic. Would the company have sided with me? I didn't know. All I knew is I needed that job. I was barely in my 20's it was the first job I had been able to get in a year. My father and I desperately needed me to be working as he no longer could. I know this sounds like some BS made up sob story, but my life has been... rough.
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  5. #275
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    I'm just gonna say this: the fact that this is mostly relevant to 'Murica and still gets pushed to international audiences just asked that even the anti colonialist people still, ironically, have a colonialist mindset
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    But in my experience nobody in the LGBTQ+ community is trying to defend of justify the actions of such people.
    Then you need more experience. Because that happens a lot.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldath View Post
    I'm just gonna say this: the fact that this is mostly relevant to 'Murica and still gets pushed to international audiences just asked that even the anti colonialist people still, ironically, have a colonialist mindset
    Anti-colonialism in the west died around WW2, the only Anti-colonialism that exists now in the west is anti-anyone-else's-colony-ism. And you bet, if a country has something we want and won't give it up, that government has to go.
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  8. #278
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    'We are the party of inclusivity and tolerance. Bigotry, racism, and sexism is bad. No one should have their livelihoods ruined. Unless it's a straight white CIS person or someone who disagrees with me. A straight white CIS person can't be discriminated against because they are the power structure, hence when we label them it's not discriminatory. But if they disagree with me, they're a bigot. If a straight white CIS loses their job or has their lives ruined by an LGBT person, that didn't happen because it can't happen to straight white CIS people and if it did happen, they probably deserved it because they're a bigot and don't deserve my empathy.'

    Labelling a group of people to strip them of personhood so that you don't have to even consider their opinions because they're 'the bad guy' and deserve anything that happens to them, no matter how horrible. It reminds me of some things I've read about in history, but I can't put my finger on it...
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    'We are the party of inclusivity and tolerance. Bigotry, racism, and sexism is bad. No one should have their livelihoods ruined. Unless it's a straight white CIS person or someone who disagrees with me. A straight white CIS person can't be discriminated against because they are the power structure, hence when we label them it's not discriminatory. But if they disagree with me, they're a bigot. If a straight white CIS loses their job or has their lives ruined by an LGBT person, that didn't happen because it can't happen to straight white CIS people and if it did happen, they probably deserved it because they're a bigot and don't deserve my empathy.'

    Labelling a group of people to strip them of personhood so that you don't have to even consider their opinions because they're 'the bad guy' and deserve anything that happens to them, no matter how horrible. It reminds me of some things I've read about in history, but I can't put my finger on it...
    oh oh! was it the Nazis?

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  10. #280
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    this thread is funny asl
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