[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[SophiaDL]

That's gonna suck T_T If you're from Siren, I'd recommend for them to at least have a 4-6 month plan because it might be a minute. Congested status only changes possibly on certain maintenances/patch drops and iirc, Siren and Gilgamesh were 2 of the worlds that normally stayed congested the most often. Aether before Dawntrail had 4-6/8 worlds congested at any given time and the spike in player count for DT is likely going to have it the same or worse for a bit.

You mean the spike in player count that is already falling off ? (just like every expansion btw, this is nothing new)

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

It wont take 4-6 months for players to drop off the game, this was a new expansion, people will leave just like they always do, a lot of the players in 14 are MSQ enjoyers which is fine, but they only come back for major patches for the story and that's it, then there are people who lost interest etc etc.

This "massive" spike aint the massive spike you make it sound like it is

I think now is a good time for you to accept that the congestion is done artificially by SE to justify the DC travel locks, there's actually no congestion or barely none.

[Marche100]

People can debate job design, the difficulty of battle content, the quality of the MSQ, the lazy implementation of an additional dye channel, and whatever else all they want, but the way data center travel works right now? This unequivocally sucks.

My static lost several hours of prog this week because the game wouldn't let us transfer to Primal, and once we finally got over there, it wouldn't let us in the freaking servers. We just had to sit there spamming the login button like idiots for 20+ minutes until it finally decided to let us in. And it's not just raiding either. It's the RP community. I work at a maid cafe on the weekends, and we aren't able to open at our actual venue anymore because Aether is completely locked down 99% of the time.

I genuinely would like to know: who do these changes benefit? You think this is going to fix Aether being the hotspot for raiding? Sorry, but the genie's out of the bottle, and there's no cramming it back inside. All this has accomplished is making me and just about everyone else I know absolutely furious. So congratulations, I guess. Just like with portraits, you've succeeded at creating new problems where none existed before. Both the raiding and RP scene have been effectively crippled now. And sure, maybe things will calm down eventually, but if this is the way things are going to be every time a new patch drops, then you'd best prepare yourselves, because you're never going to hear the end of it until you roll these changes back.

[VoidsentStatus]

You mean the spike in player count that is already falling off ? (just like every expansion btw, this is nothing new)

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

It wont take 4-6 months for players to drop off the game, this was a new expansion, people will leave just like they always do, a lot of the players in 14 are MSQ enjoyers which is fine, but they only come back for major patches for the story and that's it, then there are people who lost interest etc etc.

This "massive" spike aint the massive spike you make it sound like it is

1) Most people don't even play on Steam on PC because of issues when it comes to payment, steam side issues, limited sale opportunities including pre-sales for expansion bonuses apparently, and extra launching hassle.

2) You're looking at 5-40/50k players on average from Steam in a game that has millions of players. Even the lowest estimates of active players is normally 500k+, with some estimates and census data showing it breaking a mil+. They literally shared at the 10 year anniversary, that they had reached over 30mil registered accounts.

3) Dawntrail has had better PvE (non-MSQ content than EW). The content planned for DT is also going to be a lot more long term engagement than EW was. A field operation and cosmic exploration are going to be more active than island sanctuary.

4) As the playerbase grows, which it always has done regardless of whether an expansion was labeled as good or bad, and the hardware stays the same, it is going to grow more congested. If it was congested in EW, it is going to be congested in DT.

5) These numbers mean absolutely nothing because during the entirety of the lowest points of EW, they still classified worlds and entire data centers as congested still. EW was considered dead as hell and they were purposely changing things in DT to keep people playing, which means it is not reasonable to even remotely assume Dawntrail is going to dive harder than EW and break not only dev intention with putting in more content and rewards, but also breaking the MMO pattern that ff14 has followed for a decade.

6) Xbox being added and having a growing population is also not included as a difference between Endwalker and Dawntrail in terms of congestion status.

7) PC has different playing habits and playtime than anyone on console. PC players are able to brute force skip cutscenes, they have various plugins that reduce manual work on mb use, setting prices, etc., they have botted crafting & gathering, botted island sanctuary, botted golden saucer related activities, various 3rd party plugins that affect performance inside of raiding that changes clear speed and probability, often bigger storage on their device allowing for switching to other games more commonly than someone on console who has to pick what their primary games are since we're not going to be installing and uninstalling games frequently, faster loading times into content, leaving content, and travelling zones, console doesn't dip in population anytime 3rd party plugins go down for updates/patches, and more console players joined the game for game itself and not for modding purposes like a giant chunk of the gpose and rp community.

[Bladesinger]

That's gonna suck T_T If you're from Siren, I'd recommend for them to at least have a 4-6 month plan because it might be a minute. Congested status only changes possibly on certain maintenances/patch drops and iirc, Siren and Gilgamesh were 2 of the worlds that normally stayed congested the most often. Aether before Dawntrail had 4-6/8 worlds congested at any given time and the spike in player count for DT is likely going to have it the same or worse for a bit.

So at 4am I was able to bring her to Siren as a Traveler but am unable to invite her to the FC - Outside of that, I can give her food buffs and entry into the FC house - Party with her if need be for MSQ and still interact as long as she doesn't get kicked back to Raffelsia - The kicker: She's still a member of the Novice Network here and retained Friendship with people here on Siren sooooo - Not to bad, we'll make it work unless our illustrious benefactors see fit to bring her home...=)




This slightly sucks: No access to her retainers, she'll be at the mercy of the servers going back and forth for the next 87 days..Thanks SE =\

[VoidsentStatus]

So at 4am I was able to bring her to Siren as a Traveler but am unable to invite her to the FC - Outside of that, I can give her food buffs and entry into the FC house - Party with her if need be for MSQ and still interact as long as she doesn't get kicked back to Raffelsia - The kicker: She's still a member of the Novice Network here and retained Friendship with people here on Siren sooooo - Not to bad, we'll make it work unless our illustrious benefactors see fit to bring her home...=)




This slightly sucks: No access to her retainers, she'll be at the mercy of the servers going back and forth for the next 87 days..Thanks SE =\

I don't know if this works with the character on a different data center but I remember something about the Companion App being able to let someone remote control their retainer stock, sales, and ventures. Depending on what all they're doing, it might be worth the extra money especially with an extra retainer and double saddlebag space.

[Bladesinger]

I don't know if this works with the character on a different data center but I remember something about the Companion App being able to let someone remote control their retainer stock, sales, and ventures. Depending on what all they're doing, it might be worth the extra money especially with an extra retainer and double saddlebag space.

That might be helpful, thanks for that!!

[riqueshion]

Here we go again.

I've sent many tickets at this point, related to this topic. It's so unfortunate that we are dragging this issue from an expansion to another.
As raider from Primal, it's awful to not enjoy the endgame content as they should because of this matter. Primal used to have MANY parties to prog fights and on. Because of the DC travel, people keep moving to Aether to raid and honestly I don't blame them. Either you try to move to Aether, or you will take forver to fill your party on PF. YES, yes, I know that we can always transfer if we are not happy with our DC. But what about my retainers? My FC? Friends? My mansion, my house? Do we really need to make a choice here? How many savage tiers do we need to have to find a solution?

[berylune]

Made a forum account just to reply to this thread. These changes have been nightmarish for people across DCs--I know people who have encountered issues traveling to every data center.

If these changes aren't reversed, I will be permanently unsubbing. This is unacceptable. It didn't work for the housing system, and it sure as hell isn't working for DC travel. They may as well just shut down DC travel completely at this point. Like, I'd rather wait in a 500+ queue than aggressively and desperately clicking through the world travel menu Praying that maybe it'll let me in.

[Colt47]

Is the problem still persisting? I don't know if I'm going to be able to even do Savage this tier at this rate if the DC travel takes an hour one way.

[Boblawblah]

You mean the spike in player count that is already falling off ? (just like every expansion btw, this is nothing new)

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

It wont take 4-6 months for players to drop off the game, this was a new expansion, people will leave just like they always do, a lot of the players in 14 are MSQ enjoyers which is fine, but they only come back for major patches for the story and that's it, then there are people who lost interest etc etc.

This "massive" spike aint the massive spike you make it sound like it is

I think now is a good time for you to accept that the congestion is done artificially by SE to justify the DC travel locks, there's actually no congestion or barely none.

Agree with Stormy.

I'm a MSQ enjoyer and then I let my sub lapse shortly afterwards to go do other things/play other games. Steam isn't the total playercount obviously, but it's a big enough sample to be generally representative of the playerbase. I think you'd find the same trends no matter what platform. (speaking of which, i think my sub is done... )