[Feedback] Data Center Travel Changes

[NanaWiloh]

What in tarnation are you mortals making sooo much noise about? Data center travel? Balmung’s horny nightlife culture is still 100% accessible, so all is well. As such, cease this ceaseless whining, you common peasants! (No, no no no I’m sooo kidding…my heart goes out to you if your rp scene has been affected by this.)

Sounds more like the raid community and not so much the rp community being as they have weathered this kind of congestion in the past and came out stronger from it.

[SophiaDL]

Sounds more like the raid community and not so much the rp community being as they have weathered this kind of congestion in the past and came out stronger from it.

just a little commentary here because this is actually pretty funny to me

have you ever been to balmung lately ? balmung is literally the RP/other kind of RP hubs, i dont know what you're talking about "weathered this kind of congestion", everyone is literally on crystal for RP, it's the same situation but for RP, there's not anywhere as much anywhere else, like please if you are going to speak on a topic at least do a tiny minuscule amount of research

Well they neglected to remove these dumb restrictions with this maintenance, according to their update announcement. Was nice knowing you guys.

Apparently according to some people in this forum (they'll know who they are), you should just not have those friends and get new ones, because muh congestion ! People will go on Aether to raid, oh noooooooo! Clearly this will never happen again the second Aether opens up again in the future ! Keep it locked down ! Lmao, I swear to god it's like these people have 0 logical skills, as if because you lock it down now, the second aether opens they wont go back there.

This happens in every single MMORPG in the market, WoW has the same with Moonguard or Argent Dawn for the EU region, people always pack up in one place, and SE allowed it with DC travel, you cant just go "oopsie i did a woopsie" and then heavily restrict a feature just because people did exactly what you allowed to do, that aint a thing, like make it make sense people lmao

I will say, SE can be very grateful that this community is completely weak and has 0 backbone to stand up to them and actually ask for this (or anything really) to be fixed, yall are literally the problem with this game.

FFXIV is the only game that actively punishes people for playing with their friends in an MMORPG, and some people here will stand there proudly saying that it's a good thing because "people flock to one DC and they shouldnt be !!!! bad !!!"

[VoidsentStatus]

just a little commentary here because this is actually pretty funny to me

have you ever been to balmung lately ? balmung is literally the RP/other kind of RP hubs, i dont know what you're talking about "weathered this kind of congestion", everyone is literally on crystal for RP, it's the same situation but for RP, there's not anywhere as much anywhere else, like please if you are going to speak on a topic at least do a tiny minuscule amount of research

Apparently you don't know the actual history of Balmung or you don't know what weathered means. Balmung was labeled as Congested for 80+% of the year for the last 4+ years with noone able to create new characters. Before Endwalker, every single housing in Balmung was taken up including apartments in every ward and subdivision in every neighborhood. Housing as a whole was non-existent on Balmung to the point people were paying 500M-1B for a large Goblet back then. Roleplay communities also regulary cap housing that restrict people from joining their friends, cap housing wards that prevent people from even getting inside, dealt with years of harassment that had venues locking doors to prevent future guests from entering, used to regularly lock players out of community discords from not having character/phone verification, making report/ban threats off of associations that prevent people from joining their friends. OG RP people aren't new the concept of being told "no" when it comes to congestion in general or joining their friends. And most would find it lowkey almost weird for people to complain about losing their friends on one data center, when most of them have friends on every single data center that they've made from actually socializing, and venue owners deal with the severing of connections of hundreds, potentially thousands of staff, partners, and guests. And yet, they aren't the primary one's here on the forums despite background frustration I've heard. One of the primary rules of the RP community in itself is "No means no". You aren't taught or expected to challenge things when something gets shut down. If you are locked away from your friends, you take the loss and meet up at a different time or have them come to you instead. They eat the inconvenience instead of screaming about an entitlement because they realize it's out of their hands and would rather walk away than get an accusation of "being disrespectful" or "inconsiderate of others" because it leads to situations getting worse including getting blackballed by an entire data center's worth of venues like what raiders have been doing to Aether.

[1313]

Well they neglected to remove these dumb restrictions with this maintenance, according to their update announcement. Was nice knowing you guys.

[Egggi]

I so severely do not care what removing these garbage regulations would do to PF, it would not make a mote of difference in my mind. I'm tired of being slapped on the wrist for wanting to spend time with my friends.

[EponaTBHSMH]

I assume these things happen at peak hours when I'm already asleep

I have a EU timezone and I regularly DC travel to Dynamis to grab S rank hunts, and I'm coming from a congested world, Balmung, but both on the way and on the way back, I get one minute transfers

I mostly play between 2PM EST to 8PM EST, do the problems occur to the rest of you later than these times?

[VoidsentStatus]

I assume these things happen at peak hours when I'm already asleep

I have a EU timezone and I regularly DC travel to Dynamis to grab S rank hunts, and I'm coming from a congested world, Balmung, but both on the way and on the way back, I get one minute transfers

I mostly play between 2PM EST to 8PM EST, do the problems occur to the rest of you later than these times?

Correct. Prime time on NA would be 8/9PM EST until 12-2AM EST depending on Data Center. That's when most people try to raid and when venues open for rp.

[NanaWiloh]

Thank you for stepping in Void. Not in the mood to play history teacher. I was also thinking of the two times the congestion was at its worse. If they think this congestion is bad roflmao They dont know how easy they got it..

[Reinha]

Couldn't SE just have restricted PF use for travelers instead of restricting travel? If people were only able to join private password PF parties as a traveler and not create any parties, then raiders would stay on their own data center unless they were joining a friend's PF party.

[NanaWiloh]

Correct. They created DC travel and as a result caused a problem. I don't support restrictions of any kind, even those on retainers/fc buffs (or storage) even in cross world. Especially for retainers, something that you might be paying extra subscription for- to lose access to it while traveling is awful.

So? I think we might be seeing fluctuations of restrictions.

In my opinion DC travel affects certain aspects of the game and at times negatively ie hunts/PF. I don't enjoy feeling like I'm on the DC that is 'dying', or if I want content I have to inconvenience myself to go elsewhere. Things were fine before DC travel, it's only a problem because they didn't release it alongside cross DC PF/DF.

SE keeps insisting on segregating the playerbase by adding more DC that are dead on arrival. Instead we get resources invested into a half baked graphical update rather than a fix for that. I think until we get a permanent solution we might unfortunately deal with restrictions. Restrictions aren't new, and I agree they suck, I'd be down to DC travel on a new DC if I didn't lose access to something I'm paying monthly for or my buffs.

If it were up to me, I'd work pour resources into making cross DC PF/DF a reality, it'll lessen the load of people flocking to one DC while DC travel's restriction would be lifted, allowing people to travel freely to meet up with friends/do content or organize social events. I think it'd mitigate some of the issues that people are facing currently. That's my opinion anyway.

Restrictions suck. Depending on restrictions people will find ways around it and it might make said restrictions worse.

I hope SE comes up with a solution that makes people on both sides happy, though I have little faith.

Yes restrictions suck but so does instability caused by over crowding. Aether has been there and done that. If we would like a possible repeat of said occurance remove those restrictions before a better fix is in place.