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  1. #101
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    TKOtheKDR's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo View Post
    This...this turned into a massive fire, fast. The OP is probably long gone by now, and all this arguing isn't doing anyone any favors or moving things forward. If anything, please everyone, take a breath and please relax. We're here for a video game, yes? Then let's discuss the game, pros and cons. This thread needs to be closed so we can all move on and discuss other things.
    Nope, still here and checking in--just a little preoccupied with sleep and spending a Saturday morning with the family. Also, this wasn't a bait post, just an honest expression of sadness for the state of FF and SE in general from a pretty serious fan.
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  2. #102
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    DEI most definitely is not a term made by people commenting on how racist and sexist it is. And also if you like it, go ahead and support it more. I personally don't want another DT and I am only considering staying subbed because of gameplay (on everything except Healers).
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  3. #103
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    SlickPaws's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    It's not hypocritical to say that no one is important enough to turn a forum into their personal blog , places like Tumblr or blogspot is better for that, here it's just frivolous

    Time and place
    Considering that the forums is where we're "supposed" to leave any and all feedback, one could argue that a post like this might be appropriate as feedback for why OP is (allegedly) unsubbing.
    Wokeness and social commentary nonsense aside, I'm not really sure why it belongs in our video games to begin with anyway. I play FFXIV to immerse myself in a world that *isn't* the actual one I live in - the modern culture war does not and should not exist for me or anyone else when we're in game. I don't care what you believe, I don't care what your lived experience is and I don't care if you're LGBTQ or on the opposite side of the fence. I see an avatar of a humanoid playing a class and I care far more that that can play said class.

    It's kinda sad to see this sort of virtriolic back and forth showing up in everything. Final Fantasy XIV is for fans of Final Fantasy XIV, no political side or argument has ownership of it. If y'all could get back to moaning about the VPR changes, that'd put us back on track.
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  4. #104
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKOtheKDR View Post
    See title.
    • Bought FFI for NES as a kid.
    • Bought a Playstation in college just to play FF VII.
    • Played both FFXI and FFXIV at NA launch.
    • Own all FF main series games and most spinoffs up to and including the PS4, CIB, (including original Japanese FC and SFC games).
    • Stopped playing new FF games after playing FFXV, when the series turned into DMC/Souls-like fast-twitch-based games.
    • Discontinued FFXIV subscription and will not be purchasing the upcoming Dragon Quest remasters or Sieken Densetsu due to EXTREMELY poor wiring in DT, as well as Western wokeness and DEI infesting SE corporation-wide.


    ~fin~
    Bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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  5. #105
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    Tachion's Avatar
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    Tachion Asylla
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickPaws View Post
    Considering that the forums is where we're "supposed" to leave any and all feedback, one could argue that a post like this might be appropriate as feedback for why OP is (allegedly) unsubbing.
    Wokeness and social commentary nonsense aside, I'm not really sure why it belongs in our video games to begin with anyway. I play FFXIV to immerse myself in a world that *isn't* the actual one I live in - the modern culture war does not and should not exist for me or anyone else when we're in game. I don't care what you believe, I don't care what your lived experience is and I don't care if you're LGBTQ or on the opposite side of the fence. I see an avatar of a humanoid playing a class and I care far more that that can play said class.
    No one could not argue that. OP hasn't even given any examples in the thread for unsubbing except for one person in another game that looked kinda non-binary? Great feedback send that over to YoshiP ASAP.
    It's a low effort troll post, only purpose of the thread is to laugh at people taking it seriously.
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  6. #106
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    angienessyo's Avatar
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    Khulan Noir
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    If you're only just now quitting over the game being woke, you either didn't actually pay attention to a lot of stuff in the game as well as outside or fell for grifters that are making being mad at the "woke" for financial profit. We literally had gay marriage in the game before it was legalized across the entirety of the US, there's been multiple canonical LGBT NPCs throughout the years, gender locked gear has being phased out for years so people can express themselves however they wish, etc. Did you know that there was official FF14 representation at a Pride parade one year?

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/002680.html

    Do you know that Square Enix has had a pride mascot for literal years at this point?

    https://www.square-enix-games.com/en...2022-meet-mina
    https://www.square-enix-games.com/en...e-korra-miguel
    https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/pride-2024
    https://www.square-enix-games.com/en...rt-pride-month

    So I mean, don't let the door hit you on the way out if it's suddenly a problem that Square Enix has been woke or whatever haha that's on you for not paying attention. I also hope you don't play on PS5 or Xbox because those companies always celebrate pride and have games with LGBT and female leads. Sony Japan was part of Tokyo Pride in 2023.

    https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1649737179059621888
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachion View Post
    No one could not argue that. OP hasn't even given any examples in the thread for unsubbing except for one person in another game that looked kinda non-binary? Great feedback send that over to YoshiP ASAP.
    It's a low effort troll post, only purpose of the thread is to laugh at people taking it seriously.
    I didn't say it had to be good or constructive feedback. I was simply playing Devil's Advocate for the sake of "Why the hell are we arguing about wokeness in a game that has literal world ending magic?"
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  8. #108
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    TTB-Kun's Avatar
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    Average DT hater lol
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  9. #109
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    Kamran Pridley
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    An announcement of your departure was not necessary, but your departure is appreciated, regardless.
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  10. #110
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    Deosil Widdershins
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    Halicarnassus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Noticed you said you played thru enough of DT to notice wokeness , however the character you are posting on is level 90 ...hmmm. Why don't you post on your main....since you quit anyways ......right...
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