Just discontinued subscription due to Wuk and increased wokeness across SE corp.

[SamuraiMiqo]

This...this turned into a massive fire, fast. The OP is probably long gone by now, and all this arguing isn't doing anyone any favors or moving things forward. If anything, please everyone, take a breath and please relax. We're here for a video game, yes? Then let's discuss the game, pros and cons. This thread needs to be closed so we can all move on and discuss other things.

[Nullo]

I really hate the wokeness trend in video games. It has been a thorn in my side. That being said. When it comes to FFXIV I honestly do not give a flying French fry. I have played FFXIV for 15 years now, and it is my game. My one escape. IDC if they add wokeness, members of the alphabet gang, idc. In MMOs you have the ability to simply not interact with the content you do not like. It is a safe space for all types of people, regardless of your background, affiliation, religion, country, race, and anything else. This game has helped me change how I see the world. I used to be super intolerant to people who where not hetero-sexual, (something I am not proud of). While playing FFXIV I met a cool dude, and we played together for several years, and during a random night of hanging out, he told me about problems he was having with his husband. I was super stunned to find out he was gay, (it simply never came up). I realized from that point, that it didn't matter. It was irrelevant, and stupid to dislike people on stuff that had not effect on you, or that they could not control. I love this game. If something in the game bothers you, then leave. We won't notice you going, and we don't care. This is our world, our safe place. It becomes even more safe when you leave and take your negative views with you. Thank you for coming to my ted-talk.

[Jason_Ashford]

If he played it you'd say he was hate-playing. Moreover why would anyone with a functional brain spend money on something they don't expect to enjoy?

no i'd say he was deliberately ignoring something the devs point out to the player and is using a game from almost 3 decades ago to make a bad argument despite the fact that the devs from the original game, are also the devs working on the remake.

[Jason_Ashford]

The good old "You need to be welcoming, inclusive and understand/accept people's opinions" point of view

but when they dont agree with it

"OK but not THAT opinion !"



You dont know what that word means.

oh bless your fragile little heart. being inclusive does not mean accepting divisive or outright hateful people. you don't get to be a hatemonger and then act like it's not inclusive when we tell you to pound sand. the argument alone is being made in bad faith.

[Tachion]

You don't need me to do that, you'll obviously make up any excuse all on your own.

[4clubbedace]

I sincerely hope yall understand that with the backlash you are giving OP, you are proving his point.

Nothing else to say.

It's not hypocritical to say that no one is important enough to turn a forum into their personal blog , places like Tumblr or blogspot is better for that, here it's just frivolous

Time and place

[Aword3213]

FYI, the word bigotry can apply to both sides


bigotry
noun [ U ] disapproving
the fact of having and expressing strong, unreasonable beliefs and disliking other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life

[StouterTaru]

Making up a stupid scenario and then pretending to be mad about it is fun

[RaideDuku]

[Cach]

Easiest way not to be taken seriously is to use "woke" or "wokeness" unironically.

Hate the labels for being overused if you must (I'm a bit annoyed myself), but it's a very real and often very detrimental thing.

DEI itself is a term propped up by right-wing grifters and racists, and the fact that it became part of the conversation is a victory for them.

Again, DEI is a very real term used by very real companies and they work exactly as "muh grifters" describe. It's easy to find on corporate websites, watch conferences about it, etc. They even have figured out the term is poison so they're preparing for a rebrand soon.

I hope someone "grifts" this thread on a youtube video or something. That would be fun.