Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[4clubbedace]

Look at the screenshot of the tweet Sena responded to. It's criticism of poor VA and frustration on how the game experience was ruined.

It's easy to claim death threats, and harassment on twitter.
I agree that people shouldn't do these things but with all the previous shit that happened within the last decade, They better provide receipts of supposed harassment/death threats.

Going on context of the actual tweet

"Hey I'm having a nice day and had some avacdo toast"
Reply "you're so shit at your job quit now"

Is a bizarre sense of timing , like actual dunce cap levels of reading the room and knowing time and place , this is what shit letterbox is for

[Sekundessounet]

So, I'll go ahead and say it, maybe you can understand.

Person grabs a completely unrelated matter, makes it about them, claims harassment and threats and when bringing those up... the only thing shown it's someone criticizing them instead of something that even comes close to what they're claiming.

If the things she's gotten were really nasty, I'd understand not wanting to share it but... the only example shown was just someone calling her delivery flat and emotionless... and everyone should still take her word for it?

I know that even asking it's pointless, of course you think everyone should take her word for it, but if you want to claim the other person didn't prove anything, neither did she.

Matter is not unrelated : it's about transphobia, and she received a lot of transphobia this past month. So she shares her experience with it and a frustration, which I think is fair.
The guy is not just "criticizing them", reread his tweets, he's hopping for her to lose her job over it. Which is already past fair criticism when you wish for someone's livelihood to crumble.
"If the things she's gotten were really nasty, I'd understand not wanting to share it" I mean, she's mentionning threats to herself and harassment to her family. Of course you're not gonna share that, duh.

"I know that even asking it's pointless, of course you think everyone should take her word for it"

Really my guy, get off that high horse with that tone, and don't put words in my mouth.

"but if you want to claim the other person didn't prove anything, neither did she."

On the one hand, we have a dude over-invested in shitting on a voice acting performance that took a screenshot from the thread and rolled with it as uncontestable proof, on the other, we have the voice actor complaining about harassment, and even if we keep it at these forums, we have seen enough weirdos shitting on her as a person and trying to find any justification to keep the shitting going. If you saw these kinds of situations before, you know that there is no interest in claiming to be harassed. Most of the time all it does is Streisand-effect yourself and amplify vitriolic voices and cause more harassment, especially when people will never believe you unless you expose your entire life.
But you're right, she didn't provide a lot of evidence. But by experience, I'm more willing to lean on it being true, because the alternative makes no sense in the real world.

[Bellsong]

"Uhh, it's fake! she's making it up! she wasn't actually harassed!"

Yeah there's no way people would ever go out of their way to harass a trans person on the internet, that's never happened ever in history! especially not to this person because you don't like her! :v

[Godzillaxpowerrangers]

I now envision the last trial as the Igon speech from elden ring dlc.

[Midare]

Really my guy, get off that high horse with that tone, and don't put words in my mouth.

I'm not "your guy".

If you care so much that someone calling her delivery flat it's a "phobia" in your book, learn to stop assuming.

Matter is not unrelated : it's about transphobia, and she received a lot of transphobia this past month. So she shares her experience with it and a frustration, which I think is fair.
The guy is not just "criticizing them", reread his tweets, he's hopping for her to lose her job over it. Which is already past fair criticism when you wish for someone's livelihood to crumble.

Literally all they say it's that her delivery was "weak" and criticizing her range, her gender was not mentioned at all. You, and her, are making it about it.
And yeah, imagine that, someone doing a poor job and having an uncertain future at the position they worked for it's life. Just like everyone else, if someone wants to keep their job, they should do a good job, if they can't do that, it's better to find something they're good at, for everyone's sake.

But interestingly enough, she also has said that it's ok for people to ask VAs to step down if they don't fit the role, but hey, I guess it's only ok when she does it for what she considers a good reason?

"If the things she's gotten were really nasty, I'd understand not wanting to share it" I mean, she's mentionning threats to herself and harassment to her family. Of course you're not gonna share that, duh.

So yeah, it boils down to: "She's saying this, thus, it should be true", but sure, I'm putting words in your mouth, my guy.

On the one hand, we have a dude over-invested in shitting on a voice acting performance that took a screenshot from the thread and rolled with it as uncontestable proof, on the other, we have the voice actor complaining about harassment, and even if we keep it at these forums, we have seen enough weirdos shitting on her as a person and trying to find any justification to keep the shitting going..

And you have no way of corroborating if the other person is legitimately going all over the place spreading the word, but alas, you've already shown you accept whatever you read as fact.

And considering all the support I'm seeing over that one tweet she showed... yeah, no one ever would try to fish for that sort of attention. No one, ever.

But anyway. I barely care about the EN voice acting anyway. I do think it's a shame the quality has dropped so bad this xpac because I do watch from time to time people playing through the MSQ and they don't run with the JP voices. Guess I'll wait for the next xpac to watch them again, or catch them when they're not playing through voiced content, and regardless of voice, Poochie is still a bad character anyway.

[BigBoom550]

But interestingly enough, she also has said that it's ok for people to ask VAs to step down if they don't fit the role, but hey, I guess it's only ok when she does it for what she considers a good reason?

This is the big one for me, to be honest.

You can 'not fit a role' for a dozen reasons, and in this case it's just that she can't perform the range necessary to the character. A good VA might have made what is absolute crap writing entertaining- we've all seen things where the actor chews the scenery into bits and it's the best thing in the entire medium- but she wasn't able to. I mean, look at Red Alert 3. The story's pure schlock, but Tim Curry, JK Simmons, and George Takei spend the entire time making the set crew work overtime because they're eating it faster than termites ever could, and it becomes hilarious and fun.

I'd be quiet on it if she hadn't previously pushed for VAs to step down 'if they don't fit the role'. Well, by her own logic, she doesn't fit the role. So... she should step down from it, let someone with the range take over. This isn't even a trans thing, I literally could not care about that. This is about a bad performance, someone criticizing a bad performance, and suddenly the claims she's made before don't apply to her.

I can deal with unapologetic jerks just fine. I get along with them, even. But hypocrites? No. Not dealing with that. I'm going to hold you to the standards you want everyone else held to, hell or high water, and skill at performing the job is the first and ultimate arbitrator as to if you're fit.

To make it clear: I give precisely zero ****s as to what brain is connected to the hands performing open-heart surgery on me as long as that brain knows exactly what the hell it's doing. Sena didn't, she didn't fit the role, she's argued for VAs who don't fit the role to step down.

Well, we're there. Res ipsa loquitur.

[Regis_Paran]

Did she get nasty DMs with reportable threats? Unfortunately most likely. There's plenty of nutters out there and social media are "perfect" outlet for them.

Is she trying to use them to score victim points? It definitely looks that way. Because now all the real criticsm will be bundled up with those crazies and tried to swept aside. It's not the first time it's been done, too.

I just hope SE is able to see past the Twitter drama and admit (even if only to themselves) that they do have problem with DT and character of Wuk Lamat.

[Lyndina]

Look at all those failed games for the last 2 years...just to name 2..:Suicide Squad and Flintlock. Whos at fault there, according to journalists? The bad players that wont buy garbage, and every criticism is unvalid. Gonna agree...the VA just wants to score Victim points so that annoying arguments about the terrible performance is not valid and can be blamed on "hate". This Person said : "If your not fitting the role,step down as VA". Did she fill the role of Wuk Lamat? Fuck no. The japanese VA did a great job, the english one absolutly not. Did the VA step down because of it? No. Double standards we have here.

[Avidria]

Man this is all wild to me, the writing for her wasn't great but it wasn't half as bad as all this.
Imo the entire second half of the story suffered from some mediocre writing and bizarre problems, and Wuk Lamat was far from the biggest. I actually loved her for the first half, and didn't find anything about her annoying until the point in the story where other things were already far more annoying.

[ReynTime]

Did she get nasty DMs with reportable threats? Unfortunately most likely. There's plenty of nutters out there and social media are "perfect" outlet for them.

Is she trying to use them to score victim points? It definitely looks that way. Because now all the real criticsm will be bundled up with those crazies and tried to swept aside. It's not the first time it's been done, too.

I just hope SE is able to see past the Twitter drama and admit (even if only to themselves) that they do have problem with DT and character of Wuk Lamat.

This always happens. It's like when the 2016 ghostbusters movie revealed its trailer, and because for every 1000 comments there were a dozen or less that said something offensive, articles and representatives would generalize "WHITE MEN ARE FURIOUS ABOUT NEW GHOSTBUSTERS". It only takes a handful to twist it into a whole storm of "hate" or harassment.