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  1. #2291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    I hope you heal from whatever hurt you that bad
    Ah yes the classic "omg who hurt you" when you don't have an actual argument.
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  2. #2292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Ah yes the classic "omg who hurt you" when you don't have an actual argument.
    There isn't an argument to be had. A voice actor is being harassed, and you're more pent up in proving it wrong to feel right about yourself, and keep the conversation about voice acting quality whereas things have moved way past that already. No one cares about the quality of voice acting if people continue being shitters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutestfox View Post
    Is that the newest buzzword you learned on twitter 2 days ago?
    A vocabulary? In my internet? That will never happen!

    And to be fair, I do agree "spreading the word" it's unnecessary...

    Anyone who hears the performance can easily hear how bad it is.
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  4. #2294
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    You're being very weird. We're talking about someone's livelihood and mental health because of harassment, and you're more hung up on spamming an opinion about a voice performance.
    If you're really doing that "all over the Internet", please find a hobby and check on a therapist, because this is weird behavior. We're not talking about the quality of a game anymore, no matter how many people agree with you or not.
    Criticism where criticism is due moreso that it is a bought product.
    If someone's livelihood is voice acting and they delivered subpar work which resulted in getting criticized for it. That is valid.
    If they are having mental issues over this (quite the easy card to play) maybe consider finding other work or step away for a few months while working on improving their skillset.

    Imagine paying a plumber to fix your plumbing but did a shitty job but you can't criticize them for it because of mental health issues, their only livelihood, and being part of a protected group.
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  5. #2295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumerian_Ariadust View Post
    Criticism where criticism is due moreso that it is a bought product.
    If someone's livelihood is voice acting and they delivered subpar work which resulted in getting criticized for it. That is valid.
    If they are having mental issues over this (quite the easy card to play) maybe consider finding other work or step away for a few months while working on improving their skillset.

    Imagine paying a plumber to fix your plumbing but they did a shitty job but you can't criticize them for it because of mental health issues and being part of a protected group.
    We're talking about harassment, not "not being able to handle valid criticism", come on
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  6. #2296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    There isn't an argument to be had. A voice actor is being harassed, and you're more pent up in proving it wrong to feel right about yourself, and keep the conversation about voice acting quality whereas things have moved way past that already. No one cares about the quality of voice acting if people continue being shitters.
    And I already categorically proved that she wasn't being harassed. The example provided by her shows that someone said that her performance wasn't very good and it apparently was akin to a death threat. So, in my opinion, she can't handle the criticism and making it up. That doesn't take away from the fact that she can't act nor that her performance was bad. This forum is for discussion of the video game.
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  7. #2297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    And I already categorically proved that she wasn't being harassed. The example provided by her shows that someone said that her performance wasn't very good and it apparently was akin to a death threat. So, in my opinion, she can't handle the criticism and making it up. That doesn't take away from the fact that she can't act nor that her performance was bad. This forum is for discussion of the video game.
    You've proved jack shit lmao. If you think harassment comes only from Twitter comment, you have to think more on this my guy.
    Hopefully your 20 messages are over soon so you can actually do something else of your day.
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  8. #2298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    We're talking about harassment, not "not being able to handle valid criticism", come on
    Look at the screenshot of the tweet Sena responded to. It's criticism of poor VA and frustration on how the game experience was ruined.

    It's easy to claim death threats, and harassment on twitter.
    I agree that people shouldn't do these things but with all the previous shit that happened within the last decade, They better provide receipts of supposed harassment/death threats.
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  9. #2299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumerian_Ariadust View Post
    Look at the screenshot of the tweet Sena responded to. It's criticism of poor VA and frustration on how the game experience was ruined.

    It's easy to claim death threats, and harassment on twitter.
    I agree that people shouldn't do these things but with all the previous shit that happened within the last decade, They better provide receipts of supposed harassment/death threats.
    Answering to a tweet about her talking about the voice actor strike. Which has nothing to do with XIV in that context. If you go about your life and someone pulls your collar to bring back the conversation to something that isn't supposed to be topic, and that consistantly, it's a form of harassment. It doesn't begin when insults and threats are thrown. And if you're familiar with Twitter, you know these kind of things aren't thrown in public comments most of the time.
    If you have criticism to voice, by all mean do. If people go every single time she shares something publicly to talk about Wuk Lamat's voice acting, then we enter the field of harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekundessounet View Post
    You've proved jack shit lmao. If you think harassment comes only from Twitter comment, you have to think more on this my guy.
    Hopefully your 20 messages are over soon so you can actually do something else of your day.
    So, I'll go ahead and say it, maybe you can understand.

    Person grabs a completely unrelated matter, makes it about them, claims harassment and threats and when bringing those up... the only thing shown it's someone criticizing them instead of something that even comes close to what they're claiming.

    If the things she's gotten were really nasty, I'd understand not wanting to share it but... the only example shown was just someone calling her delivery flat and emotionless... and everyone should still take her word for it?

    I know that even asking it's pointless, of course you think everyone should take her word for it, but if you want to claim the other person didn't prove anything, neither did she.
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