Both Extremes cleared w no healer

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I can fully understand people wanting tank adjustments/nerfs, I think theirs some valid points into making tanks more balanced, I personally think it's always been their self survivability which is the issue rather then damage or raid wide contribution.

I largely agree. I'm not sure what kind of change is necessary if I'm honest as it all feels like a herculean undertaking, but a change is necessary and to that we can find accord.