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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    Right, but also imagine having to wait what was it, 7 minutes on each pull to have all your cooldowns reset. The gameplay between ARR and HW changed requiring healers and tanks DPS to matter especially on the first few weeks, where as SB, ShB and EW have already trained people to map out their support DPS to the max. It's just not comparable to the game today, I think I'll agree that they should have tuned the DPS checks to be tighter, your rotation should at least matter that much given how streamlined every job is.

    Now this might just be me, but there's something so weird about making old savage kind of meaningless, that we need to make every expansion an "Introduction to savage" which means the difficulty of the first four floors is always mixed. Dunno about the solution to that though...
    I mean, the solution to that is to just NOT do that. This isn't WoW that lets you skip all of their old expansions. XIV forces you to go through the MSQ, to see every single expansion. There should be an expectation of the player that they will actually have learned the basics of their Jobs after 100 levels, especially if they want to enter hard content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I mean, the solution to that is to just NOT do that. This isn't WoW that lets you skip all of their old expansions. XIV forces you to go through the MSQ, to see every single expansion. There should be an expectation of the player that they will actually have learned the basics of their Jobs after 100 levels, especially if they want to enter hard content.
    You are aware story skips + job skips exist here right? It's not uncommon for people to skip the entire story and rush through whatever expac is left just to get to end game. This game definitely doesn't force you if you have a wallet and are willing to open it.
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    You are aware story skips + job skips exist here right? It's not uncommon for people to skip the entire story and rush through whatever expac is left just to get to end game. This game definitely doesn't force you if you have a wallet and are willing to open it.
    Cool. Stop catering to people that make poor decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Just pointing out that you're incorrect, that's all. No need to get hostile with me lmao. I'm not Square.
    Not getting hostile with you. Sorry if it came off that way. Just tired of SE catering to the lowest common denominator. I'd put that in a reply, but I've apparently hit my post limit. I swear, these forums are designed as poorly as the game.
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    Last edited by Isala; 08-01-2024 at 10:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Cool. Stop catering to people that make poor decisions.
    Just pointing out that you're incorrect, that's all. No need to get hostile with me lmao. I'm not Square.
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I mean, the solution to that is to just NOT do that. This isn't WoW that lets you skip all of their old expansions. XIV forces you to go through the MSQ, to see every single expansion. There should be an expectation of the player that they will actually have learned the basics of their Jobs after 100 levels, especially if they want to enter hard content.
    So what was your solution for savage? To force every savage player to do HW, SB, ShB and EW savages before hitting DTs?
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