DT worse then 1.0

[Mistress_Irika]

Please list me a new idea that was proposed in DT that hasn't already been used in the previous three expansions. As a player and supporter of the game, I criticize SE's work with the hope of seeing better updates than the current ones. I'm envious of people who, after 7 years (2017 release of stormblood) still manage to find the motivation to do the exact same things again and again.

I can't. Nothing of note was mentioned since the release. x.05 (raid) patch is currently out. Nothing new was mentioned besides pve class updates like viper. I'm still waiting on the x.1 (pvp) patch. I'm not sure if we're getting only class updates or if pvp is going through yet another calamity. But yeah, no new ideas.
Regardless, there are possibly a few improvements here and there depending on how you view the changes. Story felt unbearable to go through imo. Trials are extremely fun. Don't exactly see the reason why the expansion should be rated the lowest, especially if they're already talking about 8.0. Give them a chance. Most of us knew they were tripling down before DT came out. God knows how much needs to be polish right now.

Still, 1.0 does pique my curiosity. I've never knew that Aurum Vale was originally an 8-player dungeon. In fact, that's the first time I've heard of an 8-player dungeon existing outside the 2 dungeons at the end of ARR that got adjusted last expansion.

[Ayer2015]

Literally the worst DLC worse than 1.0.
No new ideas, we are playing the same DLC from stormblood,only the names and colors change.
Same mecchanics,same structure,the game currently offers nothing new,nothing not already seen.It's boring,repetitive,the story is awkward,slow boring,written without passion. It sounds like it's written by an employee who has to work extra hours on a Saturday afternoon and finishes his work quickly just to go home.The only thing SE knows how to do is this no sense fates farming. Since they don't know how to implement new ideas,fates.Do only and repeatedly fates. But when our dear Joship was talking about innovation? what did he mean? adding 3 shadows and 4 lights is innovation? They sold this DLC proclaiming a graphical UPDATE, to me the game looks as such and the same as before, except with the different placement of some lights and shadows. 12 raids, 3 ally raids, usual routine to get gear, but what a bore....7 weeks to get a weapon... Then the “new” bozja will come out where there will be only and exclusively fates to do... and we are still here supporting this title? Not even a quality of life patch, SE is taking the direction that blizzard took with WOW, make the classes easier and repeat the dlc with new names. 4 new skills, 3 passives. Rate 4/10 (4 because the music are good)

You clearly didn't play 1.0

[AngaratoSvartberg]

Literally the worst DLC worse than 1.0.
No new ideas, we are playing the same DLC from stormblood,only the names and colors change.
Same mecchanics,same structure,the game currently offers nothing new,nothing not already seen.It's boring,repetitive,the story is awkward,slow boring,written without passion. It sounds like it's written by an employee who has to work extra hours on a Saturday afternoon and finishes his work quickly just to go home.The only thing SE knows how to do is this no sense fates farming. Since they don't know how to implement new ideas,fates.Do only and repeatedly fates. But when our dear Joship was talking about innovation? what did he mean? adding 3 shadows and 4 lights is innovation? They sold this DLC proclaiming a graphical UPDATE, to me the game looks as such and the same as before, except with the different placement of some lights and shadows. 12 raids, 3 ally raids, usual routine to get gear, but what a bore....7 weeks to get a weapon... Then the “new” bozja will come out where there will be only and exclusively fates to do... and we are still here supporting this title? Not even a quality of life patch, SE is taking the direction that blizzard took with WOW, make the classes easier and repeat the dlc with new names. 4 new skills, 3 passives. Rate 4/10 (4 because the music are good)

clearly you didnt play 1.0.
nice bait tho.

[Mr_Gyactus]

There's plenty to salvage from it. They can actually put stuff in the zones, the MSQ doesn't have to keep the 5 level restrictions anymore and can be condensed so that they aren't filler so long as the story still connects and makes sense, and some of these zones are currently blocked off in the game. Working on them for the living memory means we could regain access to them in the main world where they could actually develop them and make use of them.

Limsa is a prime example, develop some of those areas into a Separate Pirate city, one not under the control of the Admiral, but instead a Lawless location. Same with Gridania make it like a gathering place for Poachers and Bandits.

With this idea we wouldn't even have to isolate ourselves to those areas either, we could travel to Ishgard or Garlemald and see the areas before all the snow and ice. Before the destruction.

If you do that there is nothing left from 1.0, and we call it "2.0".

w(ﾟДﾟ)w

FFXI is still active, both on private servers and retail. The market for a game in that fashion isn't going to do gangbusters, but it would certainly be a cult hit.

FFXI is not FFXIV 1.0.
FFXI is an old school mmorpg, FFXIV 1.0 was a game without rhyme or reason.
If you want to try something that bad, Steam is plenty of scam mmorpg: Pick one, enjoy the download and then spam insults and complain in its forum.

[kaynide]

I don't think you understand how this game works. It's never going to change things up completely because that would piss off the majority of the player base. People go to different games to get different experiences. I don't want this game to change the majority of its formulaic systems every expansion. That's bad.

Kinda this.

Like, back in the day I loved me some Megaman/castlevania 2D. I played every NES release. I’d still be buying new megaman/castlevania games if they kept them going more regularly, but they don’t. I’m fine with similar games like Ori or Hollowknight. Even Cuphead. But ultimately, if I pick up a megaman game, I’m not expecting it to be, say, Bayonetta.

Same deal here. It’s supposed to be basically the same thing because that’s what we want. You can tweak and add some new bits and bobs, but if you suddenly made this a completely different game, you might lose people (See FF11 25 years ago vs. now).

So, if I wanna play some other game, I’ll play that game. If I wanna play a pretty chill theme-park of a game with friends, this is where I’ll be.

I've never knew that Aurum Vale was originally an 8-player dungeon. In fact, that's the first time I've heard of an 8-player dungeon existing outside the 2 dungeons at the end of ARR that got adjusted last expansion.

This is something I wish they would consider bringing back as a “do with friends, not available in the Duty Finder” kinda thing.

The problem is the old school dungeons were much more open-mapped, which meant a bit of a s##tshow with new players. Imagine trying to jump into one of the Faux Hollows without ever ever doing actual EX or Savage before where people expect you to know what to do/where to go.

Good idea, big sprawling dungeons…but hard to execute with random pugs. Wish they would take a page from
FF11’s dungeons.

[HarleyMimiko]

What many people fail to understand that DT is the basis of 10 years of future updates with wuk lamat as the main character... If this is the change with innovation proclaimed by Yoship, it means SE has completely lost the will to create new content. The 1.0 was you can say what you want,it was broken not functional,ok that's true,but it had content. With DT it feels like playing a loading simulator because of how many times the game loads during even a short dialogue. is this the evolution after 13 years of development?
The dialogues are poorly written, worse than my grammar.
Unfortunately, some people on the forum focus more on my grammatical error than on disproving me by getting me a list of new things brought with the release of DT that were not already seen in the previous 3 dlcs.

[Conando]

Bait used to be believable.

[HarleyMimiko]

Kinda this.

Like, back in the day I loved me some Megaman/castlevania 2D. I played every NES release. I’d still be buying new megaman/castlevania games if they kept them going more regularly, but they don’t. I’m fine with similar games like Ori or Hollowknight. Even Cuphead. But ultimately, if I pick up a megaman game, I’m not expecting it to be, say, Bayonetta.

Same deal here. It’s supposed to be basically the same thing because that’s what we want. You can tweak and add some new bits and bobs, but if you suddenly made this a completely different game, you might lose people (See FF11 25 years ago vs. now).

So, if I wanna play some other game, I’ll play that game. If I wanna play a pretty chill theme-park of a game with friends, this is where I’ll be.



This is something I wish they would consider bringing back as a “do with friends, not available in the Duty Finder” kinda thing.

The problem is the old school dungeons were much more open-mapped, which meant a bit of a s##tshow with new players. Imagine trying to jump into one of the Faux Hollows without ever ever doing actual EX or Savage before where people expect you to know what to do/where to go.

Good idea, big sprawling dungeons…but hard to execute with random pugs. Wish they would take a page from
FF11’s dungeons.

i don't want a new game, i want to play ff14, i don't want a total overhaul. I just want to play the game that was sold to me with INTENSE NEW RENOVATED GAMEPLAY. Where is it?

[kaynide]

i don't want a new game, i want to play ff14, i don't want a total overhaul. I just want to play the game that was sold to me with INTENSE NEW RENOVATED GAMEPLAY. Where is it?

What can I say, play it or don’t play it. I’m not gonna tell you what to do with your free time.

It’s not like you owe SE some weird loyalty if you don’t like the direction the game is moving. I’m kinda on the fence myself in that I might time out my sub until just before the next expac because I genuinely just haven’t been playing this as much as I used to and real world economy sucks.

Not the fault of the game, just it’s been 10 years and I’ve basically done everything there is that I wanna do.

So at the end of the day you do you.

[Kelg]

I played 1.0, it was way worse than dawntrail.