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  1. #11
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    Swordsman's Avatar
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    Last Starfighter
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WeebPolice View Post
    Citizen, the DRK design and concept always reminded of a high-dpsing tank from other MMOs so it's indeed good news to see Square embracing the idea as well.
    Yup people wanted jobs to play differently and this is one way of making that happen. DRK reminds me of a drain tank who creates sustain by leaching life from its target.
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  2. #12
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    Karkarov's Avatar
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    Varian Black
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    Kraken
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.
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  3. #13
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karkarov View Post
    Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.
    I dropped drk after SHB, but this sounds fun.... like doing lots of damage and life leaching it to sustain. I don;t want an overly complex rotation with bloated CDs.... just a fun streamlined job with an identity.

    Pld is cool

    War is fun

    haven't played GNB

    ..but DRK is my favorite aesthetic... wish it felt as well designed as PICT.
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  4. #14
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Karkarov View Post
    Lol ... all of you know Gunbreaker is still easily the highest DPS tank right? Also they buffed all paladin damage too? This change was legit just to move DK back into either basically on par with the other tanks (not Gunbreaker) or the clear #2 (cause Gunbreaker is still #1). They still did not fix the biggest problem... the loss of MP regen.
    I am also surprised by this thread.

    We already have some savage stats. DRK is still lowest dps tank M2-M4S and least played.

    The buffs were nowhere close enough.
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  5. #15
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    Vallerie's Avatar
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    Valeria Ymir
    World
    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    I am also surprised by this thread.

    We already have some savage stats. DRK is still lowest dps tank M2-M4S and least played.

    The buffs were nowhere close enough.
    Lowest in rDPS (i.e. not accounting for damage from others' raid buffs), but second highest in aDPS - DRK especially benefits raid buff heavy comps, while others will do better in one with fewer buffs, and that's kind of been the DRK's thing since the ShB rework. And the difference between top and bottom is ~200 DPS rn. Although things are likely to keep shifting as more data comes in, so we will see if this holds up in like two weeks.

    You're right that DRK is the least played tank currently and we do really need gameplay adjustments, but numerically things are fine.
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  6. #16
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    Somnolence's Avatar
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallerie View Post
    You're right that DRK is the least played tank currently and we do really need gameplay adjustments, but numerically things are fine.
    Its all about perception. DRK being at the bottom on DPS with lowest sustain and various other issues reinforces the idea that its the worst tank job.

    This is why nobody plays BLM either - it also looks bad pick compared to alternatives and players have abandoned it while MCH still has some fans.
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  7. #17
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    Arkhon Dullgaroth
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    just a fun streamlined job with an identity.
    Streamlined?
    Absolutely!

    Identity?
    except a few potency upgrade, this class has never seen the light of class identity since a few years, the only identity remaining is not in gameplay but in animations.
    (and even then, there are some of those that feel really out of place ^^')
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  8. #18
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    Lucy Amare
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    I know a lot of people wants to skip ahead from Dawntrail and move onto 8.0 already. But isn't it a little early to call it "mid expansion"?
    The story was subpar at best with too much emphasis on a character that people either like or hate, job changes have been terrible and they just butchered a shiny new job (VPR). The only content that seems passable is the fight design but even then the DPS checks feel unbalanced (they're far too easy). It's extremely safe to say that it's a very mid expansion.
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  9. #19
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    Athena Ascalon
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    DRK is still bottom of the Tanks rDPS wise so, they did not do much even if this is an skewed perception due to the fact that no one is playing this half baked job right now. There is still a big gap between the rest and it, be it sustain, damage or mitigation when it is not reliant on Magic mit, specially after the massive PLD buffs making it the best prog tank, hoping that instead of just, potency up, they think about the direction they want to job to go towards, and maybe, just give us more mana from BW and 1 extra OGCD, that would be amazing.
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    Last edited by Aeterio; 08-01-2024 at 11:46 PM.

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