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  1. #1741
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Y'know if you approached them with politeness and empathy, they'd probably change. All you're teaching them by insulting them is that... well, it kinda speaks for itself.

    Maybe step away from the computer for a minute? Make some tea, go for a walk, idk. Some self love.
    Ah yes, approach bullies and politely ask them to stop while they continue relentlessly mocking and insulting someone for something they can't control, all while announcing how they know of the facts behind it and don't care.

    Counter-point, they deserve to be ridiculed for so utterly demonstrating how they're devoid of empathy and respect for another human being purely because they don't look or sound the way they want them to.
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  3. #1742
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu90 View Post
    Sorry, but your golden calf is a failure. A man is a man.
    reported for transphobia lol
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  4. #1743
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Ah yes, approach bullies and politely ask them to stop while they continue relentlessly mocking and insulting someone for something they can't control, all while announcing how they know of the facts behind it and don't care.

    Counter-point, they deserve to be ridiculed for so utterly demonstrating how they're devoid of empathy and respect for another human being purely because they don't look or sound the way they want them to.
    ...y'know this is why, you realize. This is why they're like this.

    World's changed overnight. This was barely a topic of discussion ten years ago, and we spent two of that locked inside. Most of the world's older than 30, and past 25 the years stop mattering as much. Probably something to do with your body finally settling, I don't know.

    I personally don't care that she's trans. She did a shit job, that's it. Blame whoever you want for that. Her, the Director, Granpa Smurf for all I care. Getting hung up on people's bits is stupid, and so is getting hung up on their word choice.

    Trawling through, grabbing constant quotes does nobody favors.

    Maybe it's just because I come from the rougher side of life that I see it as stupid. I've seen far worse and been called worse than the wrong pronouns. Got called a girl a lot when I was younger, so it's not like I don't have experience there. I just politely corrected them and moved on.

    Been through a helluva lot worse than that too, lemme tell ya.

    But coming in, insulting people, and then expecting them to change their behavior isn't going to work. They're going to double down, because it makes you look like a petty clown at best, outright troll at worst. It just adds credence to their claims.
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  5. #1744
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    ...y'know this is why, you realize. This is why they're like this.

    World's changed overnight. This was barely a topic of discussion ten years ago, and we spent two of that locked inside. Most of the world's older than 30, and past 25 the years stop mattering as much. Probably something to do with your body finally settling, I don't know.

    I personally don't care that she's trans. She did a shit job, that's it. Blame whoever you want for that. Her, the Director, Granpa Smurf for all I care. Getting hung up on people's bits is stupid, and so is getting hung up on their word choice.

    Trawling through, grabbing constant quotes does nobody favors.

    Maybe it's just because I come from the rougher side of life that I see it as stupid. I've seen far worse and been called worse than the wrong pronouns. Got called a girl a lot when I was younger, so it's not like I don't have experience there. I just politely corrected them and moved on.

    Been through a helluva lot worse than that too, lemme tell ya.

    But coming in, insulting people, and then expecting them to change their behavior isn't going to work. They're going to double down, because it makes you look like a petty clown at best, outright troll at worst. It just adds credence to their claims.
    While I truly appreciate what you're trying to do, the person you've been talking to has been radicalized beyond return. Blame social media for that, man - it's a hell of a drug. Sadly not much to do there.

    Well. That, or he's trolling for shiggles.
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  6. #1745
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    While I truly appreciate what you're trying to do, the person you've been talking to has been radicalized beyond return. Blame social media for that, man - it's a hell of a drug. Sadly not much to do there.

    Well. That, or he's trolling for shiggles.
    It's not always about who you're speaking to, it's about who's listening.

    Sena was not ready for this role. She just wasn't. If she was a more minor character, she would have been overlooked. They cast an amatuer when they needed a thespian.

    And tbqh, I feel bad for her. This is a stain on her resume. It wasn't good, and it's going to follow her. Her agent, the director, casting all failed her.
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  7. #1746
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    It's not always about who you're speaking to, it's about who's listening.
    That's very much true and an excellent point, good on you.
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  8. #1747
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    ...y'know this is why, you realize. This is why they're like this.
    Yeah no I stopped reading after this.

    Transphobes don't get their excuses for being vile pieces of human trash because they're called out being transphobes. They get it because they think they can get away with it, as it makes them feel superior, and online there are no consequences.

    Bullies don't magically stop being bullies because you grovel to them. This is usually called appeasement, and it has consistently failed historically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Ah yes, approach bullies and politely ask them to stop while they continue relentlessly mocking and insulting someone for something they can't control, all while announcing how they know of the facts behind it and don't care.
    Anyone who believes people saying words they don't like are "bullies" sure show they had it easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    I went on a wiki walk and learned more than the game had. Wouldn't dare to call myself other than a dude who went on a wiki walk.

    There's just people up here convinced they have all the answers, if you'd Just Shut Up And Listen, so if you don't agree it's obviously because you have some evil reason to not instantly agree with them.
    Honestly, at this point, I care very little about what people calls me, the cheap attempts some people pull to shame others into kowtowing to their belief to satisfy their own ego are something I've dealt with my whole life and I've developed an immunity.

    And no matter how hard they try, the point that the VA was an awful cast that is faking an accent won't change.
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  10. #1749
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Ah yes, approach bullies and politely ask them to stop while they continue relentlessly mocking and insulting someone for something they can't control, all while announcing how they know of the facts behind it and don't care.

    Counter-point, they deserve to be ridiculed for so utterly demonstrating how they're devoid of empathy and respect for another human being purely because they don't sound the way they want them to.
    Nice to see that you're letting this perceived slight live rent free in your mind and advocating for harassment.
    Just because there are people who won't accept/bend to your ideology ,you throw a tantrum then paint them as inhumane monsters worthy of ridicule/harassment.

    As an example; there are people who doesn't consume certain foods due to ideology, religious beliefs, and personal reason while mostly keeping to themselves, would you then go around forcing them to eat the food they don't want to consume and paint those who doesn't as inhumane weirdos?

    I'm polite enough to use their name rather than use the wrong pronoun which i'm still having a hard time reconciling the new definitions with the definitions i grew up with. Yes with time i might grow accustomed and accept it but for now i'm trying to be as mindful as i can.


    And no, people are not transphobic for for critiquing and pointing out the WL's VA idid a bad job. If you take offense on this, you need to separate the person from their work.
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  11. #1750
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    While I truly appreciate what you're trying to do, the person you've been talking to has been radicalized beyond return. Blame social media for that, man - it's a hell of a drug. Sadly not much to do there.

    Well. That, or he's trolling for shiggles.
    *Cites numerous transphobic posts in this very topic.*

    You: "ThEy'Re a rAdiCaL!11!!!1"

    Riiiiiight, and I'M the troll.
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