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  1. #11
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    Underscore's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Exia Lupus
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    I honestly don't even notice its absence.
    Then you haven't been playing Viper. Not well, at least.
    (5)

  2. #12
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    Koala Shibito
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    Then you haven't been playing Viper. Not well, at least.
    Egh, follow the rotation and tips from the Balance to a T and I still stand by my statement. But thanks! <3
    (3)

  3. #13
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    Nathavin Resande
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I hope they revert these changes (Other than slither, great change). The class just does not feel as good as before.
    (1)

  4. #14
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    WhensMarvel's Avatar
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    Character
    Marunouchi Survivor
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 57
    It's essentially a much less interesting monk now, viper has a dragon kick starter and a bootshine starter that you alternate between. I believe we call this homogenization of the jobs. At least on Monk I get to throw a hadouken
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  5. #15
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    Character
    V'priva Chxlyka
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 85
    It's a melee summoner now
    (1)

  6. #16
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    Alicia Crowe
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhensMarvel View Post
    It's essentially a much less interesting monk now, viper has a dragon kick starter and a bootshine starter that you alternate between. I believe we call this homogenization of the jobs. At least on Monk I get to throw a hadouken
    I joked to a friend before that it was Monk with combo consolidation. Now all we need is to convince SE that it's too difficult to track which Blitz to execute and we'll have two almost perfectly homogenized job.
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  7. #17
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    Character
    Varian Black
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    Kraken
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Lol some of you are out of your minds. Viper is not that much different, this does not have significant impact on how you play the class. The combo system was made very slightly easier (shocker they said they were going to do that) and they took out noxious hoo hah in favor of some potency increases so it balances out. It isn't really significantly easier to play, it wasn't hard to play before. Just now you use your #2 opener more often than you used to OH NO!!!!!
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  8. #18
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    ovIm's Avatar
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    Character
    Vim Mercer
    World
    Alpha
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karkarov View Post
    Lol some of you are out of your minds. Viper is not that much different, this does not have significant impact on how you play the class. The combo system was made very slightly easier (shocker they said they were going to do that) and they took out noxious hoo hah in favor of some potency increases so it balances out. It isn't really significantly easier to play, it wasn't hard to play before. Just now you use your #2 opener more often than you used to OH NO!!!!!
    The removal of Noxious Gnash has removed a noticeable bit of gameplay of the class. Previously, you had to monitor your debuff and make a conscious decision whether to reapply it with Dreadwinder or Dread Fangs. Sure, it was not a super in depth gameplay mechanic, but it was something that kept your mind occupied, even just a little bit. Now the job is on autopilot, no thought required at all. Is that really the gameplay people want, classes that practically play themselves?
    (10)
    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  9. #19
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    Character
    Jira Yasu
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    The changes to Viper feel genuinely baffling. It hasn't even been a full patch and these level of changes are applied to a job that wasn't struggling... It feels hastily done, a revert would be nice and just add 5-10 more seconds on noxious gash if losing the debuff on enemies mid combo is truly such a huge concern.
    (5)

  10. #20
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    Character
    Slickpaws Mcgraw
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    And Time Dilation!
    And Rough Divide!
    ...And Kaiten.

    *Sad SAM noises*
    (1)

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