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[Nestama]

Huh. I ever so wonder why they'd be upset...

[Ramiee]

There are some that are upset that the male MC in the new assassins creed (takes place in medieval Japan) is black. He is based on a samurai by the name of Yasuke who was from Africa. That's about it.

Seems like the Japanese are upset too because ubisoft treated it as historical fact instead of fiction. Turns out pretty much all the information we know about Yasuke came from a western man who made claims that are disprovable. (Mainly the record that Yasuke buried Oda Nabunogas head when historians for centuries have been trying to even find out what happened to his body. King Arthur sort of situation we have no idea what happened to his remains.)
Though it is pretty funny that Assassin's creeds first mainline game set in Asia is also the first game where a protagonist wasn't a fictional character from the region.

(Edit)
Video I watched covered the situation from the JP view pretty well:
https://youtu.be/HU8IdaxHo1Q

[Nestama]

Oh is rage-bait conspiracy grifters back on the menu again?

[Boblawblah]

Seems like the Japanese are upset too because ubisoft treated it as historical fact instead of fiction. Turns out pretty much all the information we know about Yasuke came from a western man who made claims that are disprovable. (Mainly the record that Yasuke buried Oda Nabunogas head when historians for centuries have been trying to even find out what happened to his body. King Arthur sort of situation we have no idea what happened to his remains.)
Though it is pretty funny that Assassin's creeds first mainline game set in Asia is also the first game where a protagonist wasn't a fictional character from the region.

(Edit)
Video I watched covered the situation from the JP view pretty well:
https://youtu.be/HU8IdaxHo1Q

Why do I get the feeling these complaints are coming from the same type of people that think the Korean comfort women situation was exaggerated?

[Ramiee]

Why do I get the feeling these complaints are coming from the same type of people that think the Korean comfort women situation was exaggerated?

It's not, these are genuine actual decent complaints.
Ubisoft said they got in cultural experts about Japanese history but got most of the architecture, culture of the period and historical practices wrong. Compared to their other games where the in-game model for the Notre Dame was so accurate it's being used to recreate it after the fire, it shows that ubisoft has let quality slip and is using the whole badass black samurai thing to sell the game.
I think most Japanese don't actually care about Yasuke being presented in the game but they hate the fact they feel like they aren't being represented to the same historical standard as previous games.

[Barachim]

The black samurai is the least of the game's problems. Ubisoft plagiarized imagery and symbols, literally tried to pass off Zoro's sword replica from One Piece as Yasuke's sword, used chinese architecture and used historic objects without permission, which are not approved for commercial use. It went so far that the game even got discussed on Japanese TV. They didn't take too kindly to Thomas Lockley (who purged all his social media presence and had his program removed from Nihon University after this btw) insinuated in his book that Japan was into the slave trade.

This used to be a company that removed a crossbow from the first Assassin's Creed, because of historical inaccuracy.

[Boblawblah]

It's not, these are genuine actual decent complaints.
Ubisoft said they got in cultural experts about Japanese history but got most of the architecture, culture of the period and historical practices wrong. Compared to their other games where the in-game model for the Notre Dame was so accurate it's being used to recreate it after the fire, it shows that ubisoft has let quality slip and is using the whole badass black samurai thing to sell the game.
I think most Japanese don't actually care about Yasuke being presented in the game but they hate the fact they feel like they aren't being represented to the same historical standard as previous games.

cultural experts lol. Yikes Ubisoft. Since when have you cared about historical accuracy?

[Raven2014]

There are some that are upset that the male MC in the new assassins creed (takes place in medieval Japan) is black. He is based on a samurai by the name of Yasuke who was from Africa. That's about it.

The reason it blew up because there were no evidence of the black person (Yusuke) while does exist as a servant to Oda Nobunaga, there was no information showing he was a samurai.

All information regarding this characters in the past decade or so is reveal to be fan fiction posing as an academic study with the author being a teacher working at Nihon University.

Last time I check, this teacher has been now suspended by the University.

Huh. I ever so wonder why they'd be upset...

The Japanese is pissed because they believe this is a form of cultural appropriation.


Ubisoft has now walked back a bit and state this is within their creative-vision and not about historical accuracy, which is fair given the nature of the series. The problem is their earlier promotional material seemed to try to push the idea and reinforce the idea Yusuke was an actual historical samurai. In the source matarial that they used to construct the character, the author claimed something along the line "Yusuke was so important that had a profound effect during one of the most important period and event in the history of Japan".

If you were familiar with it, it was pretty much the same thing with Nextflix's Cleopatra series a couple years back in which it cast Cleopatra and some of the Macedonian queen as black. Some people weren't happy because: one - it's historically inaccurate, and two: the series initially posed itself as a historical "documentary".

cultural experts lol. Yikes Ubisoft. Since when have you cared about historical accuracy?

I don't, and like I said AC never one really care about historical accuracy to begin with.

But the Japanese obviously care, and I do think they have the right to. Asian are people too you know.

[Ramiee]

Gender and identity debates are cringe anyway.
It's an shield game developers are using to churn out slop for bad games, they don't actually care because if it made money to have no black people in games they would never add them same with white people, men, women, etc.
Literally all of this debate for AC Shadows has overshadowed them releasing literally the same slop again after what 16 years?

[Bananarama]

I really hope they never use AI. Enable that and we'll start getting AI written stories, lore and so forth.

I'll take questionable voice acting over AI any day.

I really hope they decide to use AI. Enable it, and we'll start getting decent voice acting, characters and so forth.

I'll take AI over questionable(horrendous) voice acting any day.