[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[Rikizza]

You’re misremembering, Yoshi has stated multiple times that they do not plan that far in advance. They leave loose ends as wiggle room for future stories, each expansion is loosely bullet pointed around the .1 patch of the prior expansion, so approx 2 years before release.

what really? thats wierd.

[Rokke]

what really? thats wierd.

A good example would be SHB: the writers did not plan for SHB when they wrote the initial crystal tower raids, the crystal tower raids just had an ending hook the team realized they could base a story around.

In that vein, Erenville has an Icelandic accent because in SHB the team decided voiced Viera would have Icelandic accents as a nod to 12. They did not foresee making a small clan of them having pueblos in fantasy Texas but to their credit I don’t think that was one anyone’s bingo cards :P

[Karious]

I hope they rewrite the patch story based on how negatively people are reacting to dawntrail itself

[lushblush]

https://youtu.be/ITU77c2qYY8?si=fZ4NTmqpCvVlEewr

someone posted her VO reel on reddit and yeah, this is definitely more of a case of poor voice direction than her own shortcomings. i was convinced she was simply incapable of showing any range but that first clip alone shows far more range than all of the hours she has in dawntrail combined.

[ZodaSoda]

okay but how is his voice acting better than wuk lamat? i think they're the same just male and female. Almost same type of accent and same vibe imo.
And if he lived many years in the east its only natural that his way of speaking changed a bit, that can happen when people move abroad. Thee developers probably already knew his story way before dawntrail. I think i read somewhere that they plan like 5-10 years ahead or something.

Erenville's sole existence in EW was to be a character using the new Male Viera model, he was 100% assumed to be just a male version of existing viera in lore, they had not decided yet who was in Tural outside of Mamool Ja, Erenville has only been gone from Tural for 3 years in his own words and spent most of his time in Sharlayan where they also do not speak with Scandinavian accents, accents do not change to this level especially in such a short period of time, Its very obvious Erenville was always intended to be a Nagxian Viera and they decided to change that after he was more popular than they expected and they wanted another character from Tural, What bothers me is changes in continuity, i hate them, i always have and i could Easily see Cahuica also being a Nagxian Viera who was also a Gleaner who went to Tural years ago, came back told Erenville all about the Golden City and Galool Ja ja, then recently took off for the Golden City again and Erenville hasnt seen her since, and the plot would remain uneffected and she could have a Scandanvian accent leaving continuity intact.

As for why his voice doesnt bother me, hes not a hyperactive, bubbly, over the top loud character, his voice literally matches his character, Wuk Lamat's character as annoying as she is to me, her VA cant emote the way the character talks and bounces around, atleast not consistently, which makes listening to the emotive scenes grating.

[Isala]

Erenville's sole existence in EW was to be a character using the new Male Viera model, he was 100% assumed to be just a male version of existing viera in lore, they had not decided yet who was in Tural outside of Mamool Ja, Erenville has only been gone from Tural for 3 years in his own words and spent most of his time in Sharlayan where they also do not speak with Scandinavian accents, accents do not change to this level especially in such a short period of time, Its very obvious Erenville was always intended to be a Nagxian Viera and they decided to change that after he was more popular than they expected and they wanted another character from Tural, What bothers me is changes in continuity, i hate them, i always have and i could Easily see Cahuica also being a Nagxian Viera who was also a Gleaner who went to Tural years ago, came back told Erenville all about the Golden City and Galool Ja ja, then recently took off for the Golden City again and Erenville hasnt seen her since, and the plot would remain uneffected and she could have a Scandanvian accent leaving continuity intact.

As for why his voice doesnt bother me, hes not a hyperactive, bubbly, over the top loud character, his voice literally matches his character, Wuk Lamat's character as annoying as she is to me, her VA cant emote the way the character talks and bounces around, atleast not consistently, which makes listening to the emotive scenes grating.

In shorter words, the bunny is inconsistent in lore, but consistent in acting. The house cat is inconsistent in both.

[Biffy]

I understand the criticism, but I think it was from lack of direction. I think she did the best she could with what she was given, and I think the overall tone and delivery for most of what she had in her performance fit the character of Wuk very well.

[ViaDesperare]

It is important to understand that some people have difficulty reaching certain tones, vocal capacity. Sena even says herself that she that struggles with exertion sounds. No one's perfect, but that does mean she won't be able to always fulfill certain grunts and I guess attack noises for the female roles. We've heard her scream with the male voices in the VO reels, but not a female one from the selection shown on reddit, so if we can find more instances of that to relate to Wuk Lamat that'd be great to get a better comparison.



But with that said, if Sena can't reach the capability to for roles not suited for her, then that role should've been given to someone who can. Her own words. She shouldn't have auditioned for a role not suited for her. If she's going to gatekeep, she herself has to be gatekept as well.



Interestingly, she's had contact w/ SQX before. There is a chance that they've been familiar with each other for a while. On twitter, I think Kate+Luis+Sena are all following each other so there's that, but IDK when the following started. For those that believe that that her voice wouldn't have landed her the role, this could be evident of a nepotism hire.





If Sena does become more prominent, then that's what she's going to do. If the VA work continuous to be done in the state, you can expect more shoddy work if they're not going to hire based on performance. I'm assuming Kate has known Sena for a while, due to twitter, so I guess she's fine with ideologies like this if she's going to go out of her way to hire someone who tends to spout such cruel ideologies online.

And to finish things off.


I guess say good luck to ever seeing Erica Mendez, Wendee Lee, Briana Knickerbocker, Mark Whitten, Joe Zieja, Chris Hackney, Cherami Leigh, or Bryce Papenbrook in the FFXIV scene if they've not voiced a character already. (Bryce has voiced Zidane and Mobius!WoL). It was weird that that FFXIV didn't get one of them on the first expansion to be voiced in the states.

I don't think it's a lack of direction, just not the right voice for the character. We've heard most of the other VAs do ok, with Wuk being the most stand out but she is also the MC. One does wonder where the heck our money is going towards if not for decent voice acting like all the other expansions, that's not ARR.

I think I want to be done with Twitter now. There's like nothing but despair and spite there, or I'm looking at the wrong places. Fell in that rabbit hole and found interesting stuff though, really mean but interesting stuff.

[ZodaSoda]

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I think its pretty obvious at this point much of the blame for bad writing falls on Yoshi P, Daichi Hiroi and Kate, Daichi could have done a much better job at pacing, lore depth, connections between characters, implementation of Alexandria, Cultural significance of the tribes etc etc.

Kate has been promoted to Lore Consultant and Localization Lead, She is likely the one behind the "Allied Society" crap, She is likely the one who hired all the mediocre VA's for English including Sena and She also likely had more input on story than people would like to admit considering the Lore consultant position and Japan going through her to not "Offend" any Latino Cultures, She is also likely the final say in English VA direction. Ultimately Koji shoulda stepped in as her boss, but he might be quite busy as a supervisor on multiple projects now and had a lil too much faith in Kate.

And lastly Yoshi P, he should have known better in his final checks of each part of the game he played, He should have seen the pacing problem, he should have noticed Wuk was around way too much and if people didnt like a brand new character that is unproven, it a bad idea for them to be around this much.

[Isala]

It is important to understand that some people have difficulty reaching certain tones, vocal capacity. Sena even says herself that she that struggles with exertion sounds. No one's perfect, but that does mean she won't be able to always fulfill certain grunts and I guess attack noises for the female roles. We've heard her scream with the male voices in the VO reels, but not a female one from the selection shown on reddit, so if we can find more instances of that to relate to Wuk Lamat that'd be great to get a better comparison.



But with that said, if Sena can't reach the capability to for roles not suited for her, then that role should've been given to someone who can. Her own words. She shouldn't have auditioned for a role not suited for her. If she's going to gatekeep, she herself has to be gatekept as well.



Interestingly, she's had contact w/ SQX before. There is a chance that they've been familiar with each other for a while. On twitter, I think Kate+Luis+Sena are all following each other so there's that, but IDK when the following started. For those that believe that that her voice wouldn't have landed her the role, this could be evident of a nepotism hire.





If Sena does become more prominent, then that's what she's going to do. If the VA work continuous to be done in the state, you can expect more shoddy work if they're not going to hire based on performance. I'm assuming Kate has known Sena for a while, due to twitter, so I guess she's fine with ideologies like this if she's going to go out of her way to hire someone who tends to spout such cruel ideologies online.

And to finish things off.


I guess say good luck to ever seeing Erica Mendez, Wendee Lee, Briana Knickerbocker, Mark Whitten, Joe Zieja, Chris Hackney, Cherami Leigh, or Bryce Papenbrook in the FFXIV scene if they've not voiced a character already. (Bryce has voiced Zidane and Mobius!WoL). It was weird that that FFXIV didn't get one of them on the first expansion to be voiced in the states.

I don't think it's a lack of direction, just not the right voice for the character. We've heard most of the other VAs do ok, with Wuk being the most stand out but she is also the MC. One does wonder where the heck our money is going towards if not for decent voice acting like all the other expansions, that's not ARR.

I think I want to be done with Twitter now. There's like nothing but despair and spite there, or I'm looking at the wrong places. Fell in that rabbit hole and found interesting stuff though, really mean but interesting stuff.

Imagine being such a talentless hack, and blaming the "industry". I have never heard such terrible voice acting even in the worst anime dubs.