ELI5: How are the current dungeons hard?

[Arohk]

ELI5: as they reduced reaction times for mechanics, they expose the problems FFXIV's godawful netcode forces on players.

Nothing has changed in reaction time, it is the exact same as it has always been, people just need to pay attention to what the boss does and his cast bar, instead of waiting for a telegraph on the floor.

when a boss casts an ability for 3-5 seconds, you can't tell me there is not enough time to react.

[Jinglypockets]

people just need to pay attention to what the boss does and his cast bar, instead of waiting for a telegraph on the floor.

People keep saying this. We stopped being able to rely exclusively on floor telegraphs at like level 50.

Am I the only one who didn't notice this difference at all?

[TDawnstar]

Nothing has changed in reaction time, it is the exact same as it has always been

Compare the speed of resolution of, for example, the final boss of Malikah's well (the "5 cercles or crosses" part) with the X/O phase on the first boss of Alexandria. Now tell me they are the same.

[Jinglypockets]

Compare the speed of resolution of, for example, the final boss of Malikah's well (the "5 cercles or crosses" part) with the X/O phase on the first boss of Alexandria. Now tell me they are the same.

They both give you around 7 seconds to react to the telegraph.

Alexandria's mechanic resolves much more quickly once it starts, but reaction time is completely irrelevant at that point.

[TDawnstar]

Alexandria's mechanic resolves much more quickly once it starts, but reaction time is completely irrelevant at that point.

No it's not, because that's when the netcode limits starts to show. Which was exactly my initial point

[Caitamm]

No it's not, because that's when the netcode limits starts to show. Which was exactly my initial point

I don't see how reaction time is factored in here. You know the exact pattern of X/Os well before the first one even goes off, you know the order they are going off in. Additionally, you know the pacing of when the damage comes out unless it's your very first time seeing the boss.

[TDawnstar]

I don't see how reaction time is factored in here. You know the exact pattern of X/Os well before the first one even goes off, you know the order they are going off in. Additionally, you know the pacing of when the damage comes out unless it's your very first time seeing the boss.

Yes, and then you eat a vuln stack because for the server you are not in the same spot. Is it doable? Yes. But it's annoying as hell, and it stems not from the fight design but from how the client and server interact. A lot of other MMORPGs don't have that issue.

[Caitamm]

Yes, and then you eat a vuln stack because for the server you are not in the same spot. Is it doable? Yes. But it's annoying as hell, and it stems not from the fight design but from how the client and server interact. A lot of other MMORPGs don't have that issue.

I've....never had that happen? Are you sure you're not getting hit by the side/frontal cones that sometimes overlap the mechanic and are misattributing it to the X/Os?

[CidHeiral]

Yes, and then you eat a vuln stack because for the server you are not in the same spot.

That's not how that works. You either legitimately failed the mechanic or your ping is absolutely abysmal.

[EiraWoqiso]

No it's not, because that's when the netcode limits starts to show. Which was exactly my initial point

If you're having netcode issues that bad, I really think that's a problem with you, not the game. I'm almost as far away from the NA DC as possible in the US (AND on one of the worst network circuits to the server) and I don't have any issues with the netcode during that dungeon at all. Maybe if I'm a few milliseconds late in getting into a safe spot, but that's *my* latency.