Omicrons and The Endless (Do Endless Dream of Electric Sheep?)

[Turtledeluxe]

Excuse me? Sphene did what again? I'm sure you meant that the program that controls her extrapolated from her memories that the loss of her childhood protector would have made the original Sphene sad and instructed her hologram to appear to be mourning. Because programs don't mourn. Spit that cake out sir. You cannot have it and eat it too.

My point there wasn't that mourning makes Sphene human. It's that she mourned Otis because he's dead.

How odd. It's almost like one was a childhood friend now lost forever and the other was a citizen among many that she knew would be saved to the cloud. It's like the program is practicing discernment, caring more about some people and situations than others.

I think you need to watch the scene again. Sphene explains why Namikka passing is of no concern, and why Otis passing is. We will never meet the real Otis again.

point. If only the Alexandrians had a way to opt-out of being uploaded into the system. Some action you could take to indicate you didn't want your memories to go to Living Memory like, I don't know, maybe not wearing the device that sends your memories to Living Memory! You have to die with a regulator on to end up in Living Memory. Cahcuia eludes that she did it on purpose to figure out a way to destroy . So while I agree the Endless who want to erase themselves should have the ability to do so because I believe in personal autonomy. I also believe that to delete people who didn't want to be deleted is a violation of personal autonomy. We are ignoring their rights because we're deciding they are not people, but how is that any different than what Emet-Selch did? We didn't fit his definition of people and so he was at liberty to do whatever he wanted with us even though we were also feeling, thinking, self-aware beings.

Is this supposed to be a gotcha? I never said that you couldn't opt out. I was establishing my own preferences as far as becoming what an Endless is, another version of me that is non human.

Emet Selch's primary motivation wasnt "youre not people let me be cruel". When he makes that comment he says it with an intense sarcastic flair btw-- not because it is sarcastic but because it helps him rationalize doing what he knows is problematic to the main cast. I feel like what you're suggesting here is kind of an oversimplification of Emet.

That said, we aren't deciding they aren't people. The game defines them as not people. The Endless themselves address the living as distinct from them. The game shows us they are made up of data and calls them fascimilies. Players are the ones telling the writers what the Endless are ITT.