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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    This I feel is a key point. The soul and memories are supposed to go to the aetherial sea together. But Alexandria separates the soul and memories. Did this keep them from returning to the aetherial sea possibly?

    It's possible to interpret what Cahcuia said that way. She said their existence was unnatural. Plus since this is the IX expansion, it's entirely possible this process was similiar to the Iifa Tree, which was preventing the souls of Gaians from returning to the crystal.
    If I am remembering right the goal of the Terrans was to harvest souls from Gaia and use them to revive or fill the soulless people that are left on Terra. This would seem similar to the endless which as I understand it need souls harvested from living people to then be combined with their memories to then exist in the Living Memory. So I guess technically they do have souls, but it is the soul they took from someone else who is now dead, and with the way things have been going probably killed to obtain that soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    If I am remembering right the goal of the Terrans was to harvest souls from Gaia and use them to revive or fill the soulless people that are left on Terra. This would seem similar to the endless which as I understand it need souls harvested from living people to then be combined with their memories to then exist in the Living Memory. So I guess technically they do have souls, but it is the soul they took from someone else who is now dead, and with the way things have been going probably killed to obtain that soul.
    In FFIX Terra originally wanted to fuse their planet with Gaia in order to survive as they had done numerous times in the past in order to preserve Terra when it got to the point of collapse. They got hasty, messed it up when trying to merge with Gaia and Terra was dimensionally shifted inside of Gaia. In a way Garland starts harvesting the souls on Gaia but only so that they get divided out of the life cycle of souls and turning into the Mist that the Iifa Tree's roots send out while having Terra's souls cycling into the planet instead to be reborn. The Endless are also a reference to the Genomes, soulless vessels that Garland created for the Terran people once the fusion was pulled off successfully.

    Endless are soulless memory constructs that require the souls of others to continue operating. Genomes are soulless vessels intended to be filled with Terra's souls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    If I am remembering right the goal of the Terrans was to harvest souls from Gaia and use them to revive or fill the soulless people that are left on Terra. This would seem similar to the endless which as I understand it need souls harvested from living people to then be combined with their memories to then exist in the Living Memory. So I guess technically they do have souls, but it is the soul they took from someone else who is now dead, and with the way things have been going probably killed to obtain that soul.
    They weren't harvesting their souls. Terra and Gaia and any other world in the IX universe has at its heart a crystal that all souls return to when they die to be reborn. One of those typical FF tropes. Terra's crystal is dying. They tried to fuse with Gaia to steal Gaia's crystal but ended up shifting Terra inside Gaia. Garland used the Iifa Tree to prevent the souls of the Gaians from returning to their crystal so they could be replaced by the Terran souls that were in safekeeping. The genomes on Terra were constructs to hold the Terran souls since they don't currently have bodies.

    So it's not exactly the same, but if soul and memory are both required to return to the aetherial sea in the XIV universe, then it is possible the Endless were being denied their right to be reborn and live new lives, instead being held to the lives they had already lived through.
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