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  1. #1961
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    2. Naruto wanted to become Hokage so people would respect him, because he was desperate for love since he's never shown it.
    Yea and the moment he become Hokage he dedicate all his time to keep the peace he worked for up. Minato also wanted a peacefull world. That similar to Wuk and her father, not the same exact thing of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    3. The local population doesn't hate Wuk Lamat
    Hence why I added the /cringe right after hate. The vast majority of people don't support her and react the same way people react to Naruto when he just go around and scream he will become Hokage.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    4. Naruto is hated by everyone
    False, Kakashi don't ever hate him, Jiraya don't ever hate him. Shikamaru just consider him anoying rather than hating him (and that ignoring those filler where they just retcon it and decide they were friends all along as kid). And that like the 3 first that come to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    5. Naruto doesn't become friends with everyone for no reason
    I shouldn't have used the words ''no reason'' here. It more like it take low effort on his part to switch people mind about it when the plot demands it. Like you said, he just talk no jutsu people out of doing warcrime.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Don't relate Naruto to Wuk Lmao
    They are the same character trope
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  2. #1962
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Hah, you wish.

    It's:

    I will give my life to llamatea
    I... I don't *doubt* you. But I want to doubt you. Good god, please screenshot this if you can.
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  3. #1963
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Asking for playable female Hrothgars feels like a massive monkey's paw situation now. ='D
    (5)
    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleYonder View Post
    There's also the factor that "low self-confidence" is often used in bad writing as a cop-out flaw "since there has to be one", one of those Mary Sue classics, and overcoming it as a main thing feels intrinsically unearned. It's the game/story/medium telling us "she's actually already awesome, she just has to realise how awesome she is". That's nothing, and doesn't feel like real development.

    ...
    The amazing thing is, all of her flaws are like this. And I do mean her actual, writer-accounted-for flaws, not stuff people have observed that are completely invisible as far as the writing is concerned. It's all just easy cop-outs that all avoid tarnishing the writer(s) creation in any way.

    *Ahem*

    So I have this character, and like, she's amazing. But she totally doesn't realize it, in fact she lacks confidence. Also she's like, totally too trusting? She's just that kind and respectful, even if it comes off a bit naive y'know? She also gets sick in any form of travel vehicle which is suuuuper inconvenient for her. Oh oh and she's a bit of a klutz, like not dramatically because it would disturb serious moments but sometimes she gets teased about it. Oh and before I forget, she's totally way too energetic, sometimes people will get annoyed at that but I think it's totally cute and it's coming from her living life at 120% so I lowkey vibe with it, to be honest ... Oh wait, I did forget something. She's kinda young and maybe a bit sheltered so she's goin' to be just a lil' bit inexperienced with stuff so bear with her please.

    None of these are flaws. None of them. Forget not being punished or limited by them, all of these only exist to endear the character to the viewer. Even if the plot did bring attention to them they would still be weak flaws.
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  5. #1965
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwadTheFrog View Post
    I... I don't *doubt* you. But I want to doubt you. Good god, please screenshot this if you can.
    I don't think I'll go through the MSQ a fifth time haha. But hopefully someone reading this and still have an alt, they can try it themselves and take a shot eventually.
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  6. #1966
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    Also, it seriously boggles me how unearned the relationship between Wuk Lamat and Sphene is.

    Why should Wuk Lamat burst throught the fight in Queen Eternal and be like, oh Sphene, lemme talk to your heart pls, we're besties and I can save you, when they've known each other for like, three hours tops. And no, I can't accept that it's because they "desperately wanted peace but one couldn't achieve it whilst the other can" or something like that, it's not enough. It's not earned.

    I cringed like hell when Zenos came throught the barrier with Endsinger, but at least it was sortof earned since the guy wouldn't leave us alone and absolutely wanted to be the one to kill us.

    Here there's nothing. As someone else mentioned (apologies, can't remember the name) it's like they tried to do a Gaia/Ryne situation, but failed.
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  7. #1967
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Hah, you wish.

    It's:

    I will give my life to llamatea
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    Quote Originally Posted by fioravictorine View Post
    OMG that is so adorable... ahem... sorry just.. kitty... the best thing so far about Dawntrail honestly is this gif....
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

  9. #1969
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Also, it seriously boggles me how unearned the relationship between Wuk Lamat and Sphene is.

    Why should Wuk Lamat burst throught the fight in Queen Eternal and be like, oh Sphene, lemme talk to your heart pls, we're besties and I can save you, when they've known each other for like, three hours tops. And no, I can't accept that it's because they "desperately wanted peace but one couldn't achieve it whilst the other can" or something like that, it's not enough. It's not earned.
    i see a lot of meme making fun of wuk lamat with naruto and now i think they are not wrong lol

    wuk lamat literally solved all problem with talk and ramen food
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  10. 07-24-2024 04:41 PM
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    Honestly, what's the point?

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    Sir this is a Wendys
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