Are we destroying "our own" game?

[Volgia]

False. Preach and Zepla have been straight up laughing at dialogue choices in game, and not out of affection. Before you drag your fingernails down a chalkboard for BGM music when you tell me you don't give a care for streamers, guess who are the ones that the devs will have a better chance of paying attention to between this forum and them?

Steam reviews for Dawntrail are sitting on mixed and are dwindling by the day. This is as simple as checking by simply booting up Steam and looking for yourself. What was that again about all locations sharing the same opinion?

This is gaslighting levels of claim.

I think the only thing I'd like to add to this thread is that I wouldn't count or trust content creators more than anyone else in game, forum or friend to give an honest opinion about the game. Quite the contrary in fact, they're in the business of keeping conversations open and your eyes on their stream or youtube videos for profit, so if its interesting or provocative to say a game is bad, failing or whatever, they are likely to jump on the trend for views and engagement.

[Isala]

I think the only thing I'd like to add to this thread is that I wouldn't count or trust content creators more than anyone else in game, forum or friend to give an honest opinion about the game. Quite the contrary in fact, they're in the business of keeping conversations open and your eyes on their stream or youtube videos for profit, so if its interesting or provocative to say a game is bad, failing or whatever, they are likely to jump on the trend for views and engagement.

Bullcrap. Content Creators that actively play the game have a vested interest in the game being good, so they keep an audience, especially Preach, who had to find other things to do, because WoW was so crap that he was losing his audience, because nobody wanted to watch the game.

[Volgia]

Bullcrap. Content Creators that actively play the game have a vested interest in the game being good, so they keep an audience, especially Preach, who had to find other things to do, because WoW was so crap that he was losing his audience, because nobody wanted to watch the game.

No, they have a vested interested in keeping themselves relevant, they have as much interest in keeping the game good as anyone who has been a fan of this game for years.

I am not saying they are disingenous or lying to you, but always keep in mind that their business is keeping you engaged for profit.

[Ruris]

I think the only thing I'd like to add to this thread is that I wouldn't count or trust content creators more than anyone else in game, forum or friend to give an honest opinion about the game. Quite the contrary in fact, they're in the business of keeping conversations open and your eyes on their stream or youtube videos for profit, so if its interesting or provocative to say a game is bad, failing or whatever, they are likely to jump on the trend for views and engagement.

Thank you, but I haven't forgotten why streamers stream. I'd appreciate if we can ground the context here properly. Zepla and Preach are well known for enjoying the MSQ in prior expansions, have directly interviewed Yoshi P himself, and are now both hitting the same beats of dissatisfaction with the story, along with a huge blanket of unhappiness laying over the playerbase in result of the DT MSQ, I think it is safe to conclude there's a bit of consistency there with their opinions.

Also on the note of Preach, that man isn't jumping on hate bandwagons, he dropped WoW for a reason. Man won't play what he isn't interested in. He gave an extremely fair review at the end of his playthrough that doesn't just sum up to "DT bad" so what trend is he jumping on?

"Streamers gonna stream" is just ringing massive cop out response to me.

[Volgia]

Thank you, but I haven't forgotten why streamers stream. I'd appreciate if we can ground the context here properly. Zepla and Preach are well known for enjoying the MSQ in prior expansions, have directly interviewed Yoshi P himself, and are now both hitting the same beats of dissatisfaction with the story, along with a huge blanket of unhappiness laying over the playerbase in result of the DT MSQ, I think it is safe to conclude there's a bit of consistency there with their opinions.

Also on the note of Preach, that man isn't jumping on hate bandwagons, he dropped WoW for a reason. Man won't play what he isn't interested in. He gave an extremely fair review at the end of his playthrough that doesn't just sum up to "DT bad" so what trend is he jumping on?

"Streamers gonna stream" is just ringing massive cop out response to me.

Streamers are indeed are gonna stream, but my point is that you shouldn't take their word as gospel. They're not professional game critics or reviewers, they're just another guy who happens to be really good at entertaining.

I don't know why we are focusing so hard on Preach here, but I'm kind of tired of people using streamers or influencers to measure the success of an expansion.