Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Turnintino]

My 2nd main FFXIV OC now looks like he got stung by a bee. The old lip shape was fine, why change it? Same with the jaw. What happened?? Sorry I don't have exact comparison pics, but I think the difference is glaring enough for anyone to notice. I put spoiler bars since the pics are quite large u__u

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It's really wild what they've done to so many of our lip shapes, and this face is definitely one of the most egregious examples.

In general, this face looks much softer and rounder than it used to, because they removed the painted contour of the cheekbones and under-eye creases from the previous diffuse map without compensating for the change in either the mesh or the normal map (the texture that fakes a lot of the topography we see under different lighting conditions). Before the update, face 2 for male Elezen was the option you might've chosen if you wanted a less gaunt but still conventionally handsome, masculine face -- but the opposite is true now lol. It's very telling.

[CecMiller]

I wonder when we should expect to see an update on this kind of thing - surprised nothing has been announced just yet.

[Feathetaria]

Looking at the /alert expression makes me realize how broken things are. my /think used to be so cute and now it's weird looking. Everything about my upper lip is WRONG! (female miqo face 3 mouth 4)

What a drastic change...





Feathetaria is still refusing to MSQ until she feels comfortable with her own face.

Look how cute she was in 6.55.

[eohippus]

My 2nd main FFXIV OC now looks like he got stung by a bee. The old lip shape was fine, why change it? Same with the jaw. What happened?? Sorry I don't have exact comparison pics, but I think the difference is glaring enough for anyone to notice. I put spoiler bars since the pics are quite large u__u

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I am genuinely starting to wonder if there was some sort of rush at the end and people had to hurriedly create new faces while not bothering to make the correct lip color shapes for each face and mouth option. You can literally see the outline still of where his lip color should go to if they kept the same mouth from your pre-DT images! This has been VERY obvious on male elezen but I'm starting to think it might be why lips seem off and more homogenized across the board on most races...

[Cheapshot]

Could someone link the Japanese counterpart to this thread? I don’t plan on embarrassing myself by trying to post there with a translator but I’d like to see what the feedback they’re giving looks like.

[smitten_miquitten]

I looked at some Endwalker pics, and gosh the eyebrow color change is such a bother. They're just invisible comparatively. Some comparison pics (sorry they're not as good. The emotes don't really look quite the same anymore so it's harder to get matching angles).I know the skintone is different, I changed it to a bit warmer for Dawntrail, so don't mind that.

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[lunartears]

Could someone link the Japanese counterpart to this thread? I don’t plan on embarrassing myself by trying to post there with a translator but I’d like to see what the feedback they’re giving looks like.

Opinions, requests and discussions on graphics updates

Dedicated thread for posting requests for modifications to character description graphics

[Cheapshot]

Opinions, requests and discussions on graphics updates

Dedicated thread for posting requests for modifications to character description graphics

Much appreciated, thank you!

[Einnecy]

Very nice of them to include eyebrows twitching on select emotes. Surely it is an artistic choice and not further indication that the update was rushed and there has been no quality control.




EDIT: I JUST LEARNED THIS WAS AROUND EVEN PRE-DT!!
Do with that information what you will, however I do not think it dismisses my claim that the update was rushed.

[smitten_miquitten]

Man, I saw a Sunseeker today and to add insult to injury, Sunseekers get visible eyebrows. It's the same face and the same eyebrow, why are Keeper's grey
Like I don't even want blingin white, I just want them visible like they were in Endwalker and like Sunseekers' are now. I shouldn't have to give up my fangs and OwO eyes in order to have actual eyebrows.
Keeper vs Seeker