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    Player 1313's Avatar
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    DT being "The start of a new story arc" doesn't justify badly written characters and badly written stories.

    The entire first half of the expansion, the entire rite of succession thing should be entirely rewritten and replaced as there is no reason for the WoL to take part in it, and they're barely even in the story to begin with.
    Sadly, this is a major L take. The first half of the story was great, and exactly what we were told we are getting. The second half is good too, but the way they transitioned wasn't very great , and that caused a major disconnect. As mentioned by other players on many threads, you cannot judge the story after only reading the first chapter of it. The introductions and world building are done now, as always happens in the main story for every expansion. If people judged an expansion by its leveling msq, then shb would be the worst expansion by lightyears, but nobody bashes it now that the story is done, and all the content is released and polished.
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    Zellith Shivaan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    Sadly, this is a major L take. The first half of the story was great, and exactly what we were told we are getting. The second half is good too, but the way they transitioned wasn't very great , and that caused a major disconnect. As mentioned by other players on many threads, you cannot judge the story after only reading the first chapter of it. The introductions and world building are done now, as always happens in the main story for every expansion. If people judged an expansion by its leveling msq, then shb would be the worst expansion by lightyears, but nobody bashes it now that the story is done, and all the content is released and polished.
    What did you think about how Alphinaud reacted to the system of governments of both the nations. Did you enjoy hearing yshtolas inquisitive musings about the device allowing inter shard travel? What did you think about alisae using a porxie to help the kid suffering from levin sickness? Or were you wondering where these moments were? Because I sure as hell was. Characters had nothing to say. Every scene just seemed to revolve around Wuk Lumat. She drowned everything else out. That's my major complaint. Shadowbringers in contrast allowed each character to contribute based on their own expertise and experience.
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    I personally LOVED not being the center of attention, being barraged with a massive overdose of brown nosers and excessive praise for pushing my 123 combo and avoiding the dumb like i already do all day every day anyway. It was nice to be the reason Wuk succeeded, but being in the shadows for it. That was perfect for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    I personally LOVED not being the center of attention, being barraged with a massive overdose of brown nosers and excessive praise for pushing my 123 combo and avoiding the dumb like i already do all day every day anyway. It was nice to be the reason Wuk succeeded, but being in the shadows for it. That was perfect for me.
    The determining factor of wither or not you enjoy Dawntrail's story is if you like the experience of being a 'Goon'.

    In Dawntrail, Wuk Lamat is the 'Boss' and you are the enforcer.



    PS: IT'S THE BAT!
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    What did you think about how Alphinaud reacted to the system of governments of both the nations. Did you enjoy hearing yshtolas inquisitive musings about the device allowing inter shard travel? What did you think about alisae using a porxie to help the kid suffering from levin sickness? Or were you wondering where these moments were? Because I sure as hell was. Characters had nothing to say. Every scene just seemed to revolve around Wuk Lumat. She drowned everything else out. That's my major complaint. Shadowbringers in contrast allowed each character to contribute based on their own expertise and experience.
    Us not having anything to say about the kid with levin sickness was especially baffling because we have an immediate and obvious cure and just... don't bring it up for some reason?
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Us not having anything to say about the kid with levin sickness was especially baffling because we have an immediate and obvious cure and just... don't bring it up for some reason?
    His soul was ripe for harvesting, and to be rebundled into a soul cell for consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Us not having anything to say about the kid with levin sickness was especially baffling because we have an immediate and obvious cure and just... don't bring it up for some reason?
    We even have a possible solution for the failing crops outside of solution 9. We specifically figured out that some areas have a tendancy to be aspected to one particular element need certain crops in order to survive (The mamool ja home) and we just.. never say anything about it. (Its possible that it was even the same element, and thus the same crops would work. But I forget)
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    We even have a possible solution for the failing crops outside of solution 9. We specifically figured out that some areas have a tendancy to be aspected to one particular element need certain crops in order to survive (The mamool ja home) and we just.. never say anything about it. (Its possible that it was even the same element, and thus the same crops would work. But I forget)
    You know the worst about that. In every zone there is two series of 4 story side-quest (first quest is always a aetheral wind quest, 3 others are yellow quest). When you finish those 2 series of side quest there is a quest that conclude both lines with characters from both. In the Pelu Pelu zone, one of the quest is about a lalafell that tricked a Pelu Pelu into buying corrupted crystals, and the pay-off in the conclusion quest is that they will use the corrupted crystal to transorm the fire and thunder aether left by valigarmanda into earth aether so they can grow better crop in the mountains, mentionning what you with wind aether for Garuda. There is a side quest that solve that problem, making it a non problem. If you did that quest before, this whole segment just feels weird. You just want to scream "game, you litterally gave me the solution 12 hours ago"
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 07-21-2024 at 06:35 AM.

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    Syhrwyda Holskansawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    You know the worst about that. In every zone there is two series of 4 story side-quest (first quest is always a aetheral wind quest, 3 others are yellow quest). When you finish those 2 series of side quest there is a quest that conclude both lines with characters from both. In the Pelu Pelu zone, one of the quest is about a lalafell that tricked a Pelu Pelu into buying corrupted crystals, and the pay-off in the conclusion quest is that they will use the corrupted crystal to transorm the fire and thunder aether left by valigarmanda into earth aether so they can grow better crop in the mountains, mentionning what you with wind aether for Garuda. There is a side quest that solve that problem, making it a non problem. If you did that quest before, this whole segment just feels weird. You just want to scream "game, you litterally gave me the solution 12 hours ago"

    The crops in Heritage Found are dying for another reason. You will actually solve it in the sidequests.
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